Comment by UltraSane

3 days ago

"Social media showing people how incredibly biased traditional media is towards Israel"

I learned how incredibly biased social media is against Israel.

"Polls showing people now recognizing Israel are the bad guys and Hamas are the good guys"

The same Hamas that murdered over 200 young people at a concert on Oct 7 2023? And paraded the dead body of a woman like a hunting trophy. The one thing that Hamas is NOT is "the good guys". They are utterly amoral Islamic supremacists.

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  • I just have to shake my head and wonder how the heck people arrive at such completely insane worldviews. Justifying the coldblooded slaughter of civilians is pretty despicable. The young German woman Hamas paraded around like a hunting trophy was neither a militant or a reservist. The 6 year old child whose parents Hamas murdered and then was abducted was neither a militant or a reservist. Calling Gaza a concentration camp is so dishonest it would would make Goebbels proud. Israel left Gaza, Hamas took over and promptly started mass suicide bombings. Israel built a wall and this stopped most suicide bombings. Hamas doesn't seem to understand how cause and effect work.

    • It’s because Israel have been worse. Remember that Israel literally threw children in ovens in the Deir Yassin massacre for its founding.

      It’s very white-Eurocentric to think of Hamas as the bad guys. The vast majority of the Mideast believe Hamas are the good guys.

      You arrived at your insane worldviews because you chose to support the evils of Israel. You are fully committed to the idea of Jews killing Muslims to take their land for their own personal pleasure.

      The people that don’t share your genocidal worldview will see you as criminal.

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    • > But being someone who HATES trump as much as they hate Hamas is a bit lonely

      Sometimes I genuinely feel like the world is being shoved into some manufactured simulacrum where we must reside in one of the two arbitrarily binary political camp. You must either be a maga loyalist and bow to the russian overlord, or be a "liberal" and unconditionally accept islamists as victims of oppression and hamas is the final solution.

    • As much as I want to solely blame sexism and racism (which without a doubt was a major contributor).

      We did also have a serious problem of people just not going to vote that were abstaining due to various (many citing Gaza) reasons that would not have fallen into the racist or sexist category.

      I have many friends (honestly hesitant to use that word at the moment... I am frustrated with them) that did not vote (and would generally consider themselves liberal) and yet continue to complain. The turnout was legitimately bad.

Israel's history and present is the manifestation of amoral jewish supremacists[0] trying to ethnically cleanse Palestine by any means which naturally manifested itself in the current genocide[1] of Palestinians. Early Zionist leaders were outright racists using the Hebrew N-Word "kushim" to describe the native Palestinians which they were trying to ethnically cleanse: "Neither Zangwill nor Weizmann intended these demographic assessments in a literal fashion. They did not mean that there were no people in Palestine, but that there were no people worth considering within the framework of the notions of European supremacy that then held sway. In this connection, a comment by Weizmann to Arthur Ruppin, the head of the colonization department of the Jewish Agency, is particularly revealing. When asked by Ruppin about the Palestinian Arabs, Weizmann replied: "The British told us that there are there some hundred thousands negroes [Kushim] and for those there is no value.”[2]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_supremacy

[1] https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-c...

[2] Weizmann, quoted by Arthur Ruppin in: Yosef Heller, Bama'avak Lamedinah , Jerusalem, 1984, p.140.