This is essentially how Turkiye continues to describe the Armenian Genocide to this day. "A) there was a war going on, people sometimes die in wars whoops it's tragic" and "B) the situation is very complex and nuanced and any narrative but our chosen one is too simplistic". It sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?
Erdogan is a war criminal too. And I’m sure the ones before him were not much more enlightened about this issue. I wonder what Ataturk thought about the Armenian genocide. I will google that to get educated on what he thought because he is about the only leader in Turkey’s history including Ottoman history that deserves respect.
>And I’m sure the ones before him were not much more enlightened about this issue.
They weren't. Ataturk was literally part of the secular CUP movement which committed the genocide. That secular party also known as the "Young Turks" did not see themselves as Ottomans but Turks only. Atatürk needed international legitimacy for the new Turkish Republic that's why he tried to distance himself from the CUP leadership although he was part of the military-political establishment that enabled the CUP's rise.
While not directly involved in the genocide, he was part of the system that allowed it. His later condemnations of CUP leaders came when their policies had been thoroughly discredited. Part of Ataturk's "modernization" efforts included suppressing discussion of the genocide. The official Turkish position of genocide denial was essentially established during his rule.
Ataturk tried to whitewash the "Young Turks" and give them a "fresh start" by propagating a false narrative that blamed the crimes on the "Ottoman identity" so their "new identity" of "pure Turk" has a clean slate because Atatürk needed international legitimacy for the new Turkish Republic.
Oh yeah, the first "genocide" where the genocided population somehow increased in size instead of decreasing, and where the genocider tries to minimize the number of deaths instead of trying to maximize it.
That's one of the most stupid things I've ever read. An actual genocide is the Holocaust, or Hamas attack on Oct 7th, where they actually tried to kill as many Jews as possible.
This is essentially how Turkiye continues to describe the Armenian Genocide to this day. "A) there was a war going on, people sometimes die in wars whoops it's tragic" and "B) the situation is very complex and nuanced and any narrative but our chosen one is too simplistic". It sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?
https://www.mfa.gov.tr/the-armenian-allegation-of-genocide-t...
Erdogan is a war criminal too. And I’m sure the ones before him were not much more enlightened about this issue. I wonder what Ataturk thought about the Armenian genocide. I will google that to get educated on what he thought because he is about the only leader in Turkey’s history including Ottoman history that deserves respect.
>And I’m sure the ones before him were not much more enlightened about this issue.
They weren't. Ataturk was literally part of the secular CUP movement which committed the genocide. That secular party also known as the "Young Turks" did not see themselves as Ottomans but Turks only. Atatürk needed international legitimacy for the new Turkish Republic that's why he tried to distance himself from the CUP leadership although he was part of the military-political establishment that enabled the CUP's rise.
While not directly involved in the genocide, he was part of the system that allowed it. His later condemnations of CUP leaders came when their policies had been thoroughly discredited. Part of Ataturk's "modernization" efforts included suppressing discussion of the genocide. The official Turkish position of genocide denial was essentially established during his rule.
Ataturk tried to whitewash the "Young Turks" and give them a "fresh start" by propagating a false narrative that blamed the crimes on the "Ottoman identity" so their "new identity" of "pure Turk" has a clean slate because Atatürk needed international legitimacy for the new Turkish Republic.
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Oh yeah, the first "genocide" where the genocided population somehow increased in size instead of decreasing, and where the genocider tries to minimize the number of deaths instead of trying to maximize it.
That's one of the most stupid things I've ever read. An actual genocide is the Holocaust, or Hamas attack on Oct 7th, where they actually tried to kill as many Jews as possible.
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