Comment by klipt
4 days ago
> 23 percent of the Jewish majority as of 2018 was foreign born
You know what population is usually foreign born? Refugees!
> even the Israelis themselves do have ties to their own personal homelands.
What ties do Yemenite Jews who fled to Israel have to a Yemen that is ruled by the Houthis, an almost comically Nazi-like group whose flag literally has "a curse on the Jews" written on it in big letters?
These people are refugees, not "colonists"
Do you have any evidence that a large percentage of that population is refugees?
What was Yaakov Fauci fleeing from?
> These people are refugees, not "colonists"
Many settlers in America were fleeing religious prosecution in Britain, that doesn't make them not colonizers.
> Do you have any evidence that a large percentage of that population is refugees?
Have you not heard of the Holocaust? The majority of Israelis descend either from refugees from Europe (Ashkenazim), or refugees from Arab/Muslim countries (Mizrahim) whose homes were stolen by Europeans or Arabs, respectively.
> What was Yaakov Fauci fleeing from?
American born Israelis are a small minority.
> Many settlers in America were fleeing religious prosecution in Britain, that doesn't make them not colonizers.
So if a Palestinian from Gaza gets asylum in the US, does that make that Palestinian a colonizer of Native American land?
1) I gave you hard data, I don't count "You don't remember the holocaust" as hard data.
2) Prove it. Give me data not just your opinion.
3) Not really and I fail to see how this is even important. The US is not engaging in active colonization, it has fully colonized the US. You could even argue we've moved in the direction of decolonization by giving back some land to the indigenous population.
Can we agree an American-Israel dual citizen stealing the house someone is currently living in is different than someone fleeing ethnic cleansing?
Like if the US invades Greenland and that Palestinian fled to America and then participated in the colonization then yes they would be a colonizer.
The flip side of this double hypothetical is that Israel is actively building illegal settlements on Palestinian land so anyone who immigrates and isn't under legitimate duress to do so is a colonizer.
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