Comment by ignoramous

3 days ago

> blame upon a society largely built and carved out of barren land over decades of great difficulty

First, not all of it was "barren land": Not the places that were ethnically cleansed in 48 and 67. Second, you think any of it gives any society the license to do whatever they please?

> most bloodthirsty genocidal persecutions

Zionists back then didn't really care about those being persecuted in the diaspora [0], though they do find it fit to use it to justify their adventures in colonialism.

> having built a real country

The problem is, it is a phantom country for ~50% of the inhabitants under occupation.

> their desire for the total elimination of the Jewish nation of millions

Speaking of desires, one side is already acting on theirs to eliminate another peoples [1].

[0] https://jewishjournal.com/news/worldwide/151463/the-diaspora...

[1] https://www.mekomit.co.il/ps/134005/

> Zionists back then didn't really care about those being persecuted in the diaspora

Zionists themselves were mostly victims . My grandfather and grandmother fled from Germany to Palestine in the 30s , a bit after Hitler got into power. I guess technically they were Zionists because they fled to Palestine as Jews, and took part in the state, but I don't think they particularly cared about Jewish statehood - they just wanted to live. All their family left behind in Europe was wiped out - this is the story of many of the so called colonialist Zionists.

They came with nothing, lost everything and then had to endure all the wars in Israel as well. There's nothing particularly special about the story of my grandfather and grandmother, it's the story of most Ashkenazi Jews in Israel.

You can call it "adventures in colonialism" and link to some bullshit articles all you want, but history is history.