Comment by exe34

3 days ago

First one:

> Since the beginning of the War on 7 October 2023, dozens of Israeli universities and colleges initiated disciplinary actions mainly and overwhelmingly against Palestinian students, both citizens of Israel and residents of East Jerusalem, based on their social media posts.

I started reading thinking oh this isn't good - oh that makes more sense. Here in the UK we also ban support for terrorist organisations.

> Plenty? You kid?

21% of the population of Israel counts as plenty in my opinion.

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aprilthird2021  3 days ago

Imagine being from the UK and hating some ethnic group halfway around the world so much, that when I am here talking about my college friend who was prevented from higher education because of an ethnic conflict, you have to deflect to the worst possible examples of his ethnic group for what reason? To be a jerk?

  • dakom  3 days ago

    Imagine actually living in Israel where I bought my meds yesterday from an Arab pharmacist and watched my kids play in the park the other day with Muslim (presumably Arab) children.

    I really wish the world would stay out of an issue they know nothing about.

    The very word "Palestinian" is _ridiculous_, there is no such nation, it's literally the Arabs who seek war and rejected every offer of peace from Israel, Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon.

    Look at the Jordanian flag next to the "Palestine" one. Google where Arafat was born. Look at the actual Hamas charter which says to kill every Jew no matter what.

    Arabs and Muslims who do not want to annihilate Israel absolutely 100% do enjoy equal rights here. I live here. I see it first-hand nearly every day of my life. It's a democratic country. Arabs and Muslims are in the Knesset. Whether or not they should be in a Jewish homeland is a different discussion, fact is they are.

    Odds are your "Palestinian" friend was offered the opportunity for Israeli citizenship and rejected it because he's been brainwashed by a downright stupid narrative of a national identity that never existed until the 1960's when all out war failed.

    I buy my medicine from Arabs and chill in parks with Muslims, but then I have to run into a bomb shelter multiple times a week and cope with the 19 year old in my neighborhood who got killed fighting homicidal maniacal terrorists.

    So, no, this isn't about hating an ethnic group. Palestinians are not an ethnic group. It's about hating antisemetism and the pattern that keeps happening throughout history where people choose to hate Jews so much they make up all kinds of nonsense to justify it.

    • ignoramous  3 days ago

      > So, no, this isn't about hating an ethnic group

      Several statements you make contradict this & just because you "buy medicines from Arabs" and "chill in the park with Muslims" doesn't change the fact.

      To watch cognitive dissonance like this is wild.

      > Look at the actual Hamas charter

      You looked at Likud's? Otmza Yehudit's? What the Kahanists in the Knesset, in the IDF say and do? Or, do you turn a blind eye?

      > really wish the world would stay out

      The World created this issue by imposing a partition on peoples that didn't want it. Too bad for y'all that you can't handle external assessments but that's how this works.

      > 100% do enjoy equal rights here.

      100%?

        Out of the 92,000 Bedouin living in the Negev in 1947, only 11,000 remained after the foundation of Israel. The others were never fully accounted for. Those who remained were treated particularly harshly, uprooted time and again and forced to live in reservations.  Currently there are around 200,000 Bedouin in Israel, including some 80,000-90,000 living in 35 ‘unrecognized villages’ at constant threat of eviction or forced displacement by authorities.

      https://minorityrights.org/communities/bedouin/

      And that's just the Bedouins.

        ... a law passed in November that allows the interior minister to deport family members of people convicted of terror offences if they knew of an attack and did not take necessary measures to prevent it, or if they express support or sympathy for an attack, even if they hold Israeli citizenship.

  Other laws passed in late 2024 would allow authorities to withhold benefit payments from parents of minors convicted of a security offence if an Israeli court deems it a terror offence, and allow children as young as 12 to be imprisoned if convicted of murder that is deemed an act of terrorism.

  Proponents say the changes would deter would-be terrorists. But legal analysts say they discriminate against Palestinians — since Jewish Israelis are generally charged under criminal rather than counter-terror laws — and further entrench the two-tier nature of Israel’s legal framework.

      https://www.ft.com/content/3d57cf7c-a097-4e86-8f39-0f7720508...

      And that's just the 48ers protesting the govt. They're the Arabs you "hangout" with, and this how they live ("as good Arabs").

      > fighting homicidal

        בשבוע הראשון של 2025, צה"ל חיסל 74 ילדים ברצועת עזה

      https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/new-year-brings-little...

      > maniacal

        למפקדים שלחמו ב־7 באוקטובר יש "המבט": לכאורה העיניים נראות חולמניות, אבל הן לא – זהו המבט המוטרף. לחיילים יש את "אני משוגע", שיר שגרסתו העדכנית חושפת את התפרקות המערכת הצבאית

  מי משוגע? אני משוגע!
  מי משוגע? אני משוגע!
  מי משוגע? אני משוגע!
  מי משוגע? אני משוגע!

  צה"ל משוגע כן צה"ל דמיקולו

      https://telem.berl.org.il/11752/

      > terrorists

      Who? Hasmonaim? Nahal Haredi?

      https://www.timesofisrael.com/misfits-or-misunderstood-sanct...

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    • aprilthird2021  2 days ago

      Yeah, just proving me right, you had to come in with "Palestinians don't even exist" in a comment thread about my friend who had to delay his graduation because of Israel's control of Palestine, and then think it's crazy people accuse Israel of genocide.

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  • exe34  3 days ago

    I don't hate them. they hate the Jews. I want them to live in peace and thrive. but it's not going to happen while they keep attacking Israel.

    • aprilthird2021  2 days ago

      My college friend didn't attack anyone, but you are taking the sins of people who share his ethnicity and attaching them to him, and in the same breath bemoaning that we do that to the Jewish people (even though we never did that)

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