Comment by lreeves

3 months ago

I'm sure you have other examples (and I'm not really asking for them) but your sshd example would make me dislike the choices Ubuntu made, not systemd. Like I don't blame systemd for snaps being so awful.

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egorfine  3 months ago

You are technically right.

My view is that there is an attitude/approach spillover from systemd crowd into other teams. Switching port 22 from sshd to systemd was not something that any sane person could come up with. It's a stream of incredibly hostile decisions from systemd upstream that allowed that kind of thinking.

  • growse  3 months ago

    Or maybe the people who think it's a good idea have a different perspective and value system to you?

    Labelling a technical decision that was made about a system design (that a lot of people agree with) as "not sane" makes you look like a fundamentalist.

    • egorfine  3 months ago

      I would like to talk to a sane person who

      * decided to covertly move port 22 from sshd to systemd while actively masking the change so that `ps ax` shows "sshd" in the process title

      * decided to not mention this fact in sshd_config while leaving the Port configuration clause in place

      Yeah, call me a fundamentalist, I would like to talk to a sane person like that.

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