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Comment by lreeves

10 months ago

I'm sure you have other examples (and I'm not really asking for them) but your sshd example would make me dislike the choices Ubuntu made, not systemd. Like I don't blame systemd for snaps being so awful.

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egorfine  10 months ago

You are technically right.

My view is that there is an attitude/approach spillover from systemd crowd into other teams. Switching port 22 from sshd to systemd was not something that any sane person could come up with. It's a stream of incredibly hostile decisions from systemd upstream that allowed that kind of thinking.

  • growse  10 months ago

    Or maybe the people who think it's a good idea have a different perspective and value system to you?

    Labelling a technical decision that was made about a system design (that a lot of people agree with) as "not sane" makes you look like a fundamentalist.

    • egorfine  10 months ago

      I would like to talk to a sane person who

      * decided to covertly move port 22 from sshd to systemd while actively masking the change so that `ps ax` shows "sshd" in the process title

      * decided to not mention this fact in sshd_config while leaving the Port configuration clause in place

      Yeah, call me a fundamentalist, I would like to talk to a sane person like that.

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