Comment by motorest

3 months ago

> wow.. our society really has a tendency to overcorrect regarding social issues

I don't agree. You're reacting to a one-sided, very partial critique of a policy change that no longer benefitted a specific group and the only tradeoff was a hypothetical and subjective drop of the hiring bar. This complain can also be equally dismissed as members of the privileged group complaining over the loss of privilege.

The article is very blunt in the way their framed the problem: the in-group felt entitled to a job they felt was assured to them, but once the rules changed to have them compete on equal footing for the same position... That's suddenly a problem.

To make matters worse, this blend of easily arguable nitpicking is being used to kill any action or initiative that jeopardizes the best interests of privileged groups.

Also, it should be stressed that this pitchfork drive against discriminate hiring practices is heard because these privileged groups believe their loss of privilege is a major injustice. In the meantime, society as a whole seemed to have muted any concern voiced by any persecuted and underprivileged group for not even having the chance of having a shot at these opportunities. Where's the outrage there?

The undisputed facts at hand are:

* The FAA introduced a bigraphical questionnaire which screened out 90% of applicants.

* The answers to this questionnaire were distributed to members of the National Black Coalition of Federal Aviation Employees.

* Members were explicitly told not to distribute the answers to other people, to reduce competition for admission.

This is as bad a scandal as though the answers to the SAT were leaked.

  • > I'm... totally at a loss as to you you can get this takeaway from this piece. The undisputed facts at hand are:

    This is exactly the kind of one-sided nitpicking I pointed out. You purposely decided to omit the fact that the "biological questionaire" was in fact a change in the way applicants were evaluated, which eliminated the privilege of an in-group to avoid to compete with "walk-ons", i.e., anyone outside of the privileged group. At best you're trying to dismiss the sheer existence of such an evaluation process by putting up strawmen over the implementation of this evaluation.

    • Is "eliminated the privilege of" some kind of dogwhistle for being racist against white people? You're intentionally using circuitous language but that appears to be the message. People are individual human beings, discrimination on the basis of skin color is evil. Not sure why this is so hard to understand for some people.

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    • > You purposely decided to omit the fact that the "biological questionaire" was in fact a change in the way applicants were evaluated

      Man, you are now losing audiences that are sympathetic to your position. Are you accusing Manuel_D of edit-sniping you? Or are you claiming that the comment as it is currently written omits the above fact?

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> equal footing

So, the candidates who were not members of some racially based association also got access to the answers to the first test?

> once the rules changed to have them compete on equal footing for the same position... That's suddenly a problem.

It wasn’t on equal footing, so your entire post is based on either a misunderstanding or you’re just blatantly trolling in which case well done, I totally bit.