Comment by mohsen1

18 days ago

> available via the Gemini API in Google AI Studio and Vertex AI.

> Gemini 2.0, 2.0 Pro and 2.0 Pro Experimental, Gemini 2.0 Flash, Gemini 2.0 Flash Lite

3 different ways of accessing the API, more than 5 different but extremely similarly named models. Benchmarks only comparing to their own models.

Can't be more "Googley"!

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justanotheratom  18 days ago

They actually have two "studios"

Google AI Studio and Google Cloud Vertex AI Studio

And both have their own documentation, different ways of "tuning" the model.

Talk about shipping the org chart.

ssijak  18 days ago

Working with google APIs is often an exercise in frustration. I like their base cloud offering the best actually, but their additional APIs can be all over the place. These AI related are the worst.

  • mring33621  16 days ago

    heuristic for Google Gemini API usage:

    if the model name contains '-exp' or '-preview', then API version is 'v1alpha'

    otherwise, use 'v1beta'

raverbashing  18 days ago

Honestly naming conventions in the AI world have been appalling regardless of the company

  • belval  18 days ago

    Google isn't even the worst in my opinion. From the top of my head

    Anthropic:

    Claude 1 Claude Instant 1 Claude 2 Claude Haiku 3 Claude Sonnet 3 Claude Opus 3 Claude Haiku 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5 Claude Sonnet 3.5v2

    OpenAI:

    GPT-3.5 GPT-4 GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o GPT-4o-mini o1 o3-mini o1-mini

    Fun times when you try to setup throughput provisioning.

    • rfoo  17 days ago

      It's

      GPT-3.5 GPT-4 GPT-4-turbo GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o GPT-4o-mini o1-preview o1 (low) o1 (medium) o1 (high) o1-mini o3-mini (low) o3-mini (medium) o3-mini (high)

      At this pace we are going to get to USB 3.2 Gen 1 real fast.

    • jorvi  18 days ago

      I don't understand why if they're gonna use shorthands to make the tech seem cooler, they can't at least use mnemonic shorthands.

      Imagine if it went like this:

        Mnemonics: m(ini), r(easoning), t(echnical)

  Claude 3m
  Claude 3mr
  Claude 3mt
  Claude 3mtr
  Claude 3r
  Claude 3t
  Claude 3tr

    • pkaye  16 days ago

      > GPT-4o-2024-08-06 GPT-4o

      From what I understand GPT-4o will map to the most recent generated model so it will change over time. The models with the date appended will not change over time.

  • jug  18 days ago

    Google is the least confusing to me. Old school version number and Pro is better than Flash which is fast and for "simple" stuff (which can be effortless intermediate level coding at this point).

    OpenAI is crazy. There may be a day when we might have o5 that is reasoning and 5o that is not, and where they belong to different generations too, snd where "o" meant "Omni" despite o1-o3 not being audiovisual anymore like 4o.

    Anthropic crazy too. Sonnets and Haikus, just why... and a 3.5 Sonnet that was released in October that was better than 3.5 Sonnet. (Not a typo) And no one knows why there never was a 3.5 Opus.

    • NitpickLawyer  18 days ago

      > And no one knows why there never was a 3.5 Opus.

      If you read between the lines it's been pretty clear. The top labs are keeping the top models in house and use them to train the next generation (either SotA or faster/cheaper etc).

llm_trw  18 days ago

You missed the first sentence of the release:

>In December, we kicked off the agentic era by releasing an experimental version of Gemini 2.0 Flash

I guess I wasn't building AI agents in February last year.

  • soulofmischief  18 days ago

    Yeah some of us have been working on agents predominately for years now, but at least people are finally paying attention. Can't wait to be told how I'm following a hype cycle again.