Comment by cpymchn
15 days ago
What's new here?
As mentioned in the article, Salt Typhoon and the recency of this request by the UK. At this point they should know better.
My pet theory is anytime the US wants to do something illegal under US law, they simply ask the UK to do it and vice versa. That's why Salt Typhoon isn't and never will be a lesson learned.
I recommend Susan Landau as the goto person on this. She recently spoke with Lawfare on the current state of play.
[1] Susan Landau and Alan Rozenshtein Debate End-to-End Encryption (Again!) https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/lawfare-daily--susan-la...!)
Working link: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/lawfare-daily--susan-la...
Formatting in link is broken. This is a direct link to the youtube version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWBFXiOcR88
It's not a pet theory, it's exactly how the Five-Eyes system is meant to work. I remember when Total Information Awareness was announced and they even had a cool badge designed for the new govt department. It wasn't a popular idea.
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It is a pet theory. It is illegal for the US to access its citizens' and residents' data without a warrant, and asking somebody else to do it doesn't magically make it legal.
It’s illegal but they do it anyways. Recall there was a man named Snowden who revealed the NSA does collect USA citizens’ data.
It's not a pet theory when there's proof they have engaged in it through five eyes. We're not saying it respects the constitution or its intent. We're saying it's what happens.
Black CIA sites weren't legal either, nor was torture.
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Why would they "access [their] data", instead of a report from a foreign intelligence agency?
It is actually Australia where the US goes to test out far-out legislative ideas before implementing them at home.
Australia does a great job of enacting wacky authoritarian policies in the last 5 years; It would make sense to use them as a staging ground. Does any specific legislation come to mind?
Social media ban for under 16s is the latest half witted idea enacted by the government here.
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Any specific whacky examples?
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It's exactly how the five-eyes information sharing works.
Participants spy on each other's citizens on the other's behalf and share data, to avoid the legality of doing so to their own citizens.
That is exactly what this is.