Comment by Havoc
10 months ago
From what I can piece together it seems Hector is upset about someone ("Hellwig"?) doing something that was seen as intentionally sabotaging the rust efforts. Hector posted about it on socials. Linus came down on Hector for leveraging socials to fight kernel disputes. Hector quits.
No doubt that is a flawed summary so feel free to correct
You're roughly correct but you're missing some important context.
Hector wasn't the developer of this patch. However, he is a user of it. He has had some rough interactions over the last few years. And so seeing this happen (even though it's happening to someone else) is a "the straw that breaks the camel's back" kind of deal.
No that's 100% accurate.
Marcan is probably a little acutely upset not just because he was told off, but also because Linus hasn't waded into the actual issue at hand (which he needs to, not even Greg K-h can answer it). But that issue is less urgent and it's probably reasonable for Linus to:
a) Mull it over before making a rash decision b) let tempers calm.
I would guess Linus will wait til Monday and is probably also having some off-list chats anyway.
I couldn't speak to off-list chats, but this has been going on for awhile.
The statement that they were going to maintain this without the support of the DMA maintainer was made 22 days ago [1]. That statement was rejected 11 days ago [2]. Linus was explicitly asked to intervene 10 days ago [3]. (Too complete the timeline Hector Martin first got involved 4 days ago, Linus intervened about that yesterday).
I don't know why you think Linus will suddenly choose to address this Monday.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/Z4kG5AcVeQKegLnb@poll...
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20250128092334.GA2854...
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/Z5qeoqRZKjiR1YAD@poll...
I suppose this is what you're looking for:
https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20250110083955.GA5395...
https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20250128092334.GA2854...
https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/Z5qeoqRZKjiR1YAD@poll...
https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20250204052916.GA2874...
https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/20250131135421.GO5556...
Note: I did not intend to particularly link to Christoph Hellwig comments, it just so happens that these contain enough quoting form previous answers to trace out something coherent.
For the complete context, you should walk up/down (and laterally) the thread to get more details and make your own opinion of it. It doesn't take very long.
I saw the social media post, and it didn’t even register as “trying to start a brigade” IMO.
I read it as “look at this shit” and general frustration with the likes of DMA-guys behaviour.
Yup, I'm not at all understanding the framing of those posts as "brigading". He's venting, justifiably angry. He wasn't like "go post at these guys and help me fight!", at least I didn't see anything in his messages suggesting anything along those lines.