Comment by pmarreck

10 months ago

Drama needs to be worked against, not expanded upon.

A lot of what I’m reading seems to make me feel that drama was… not avoided by this person, putting it charitably.

And I'm someone who I believe still sponsors them! Asahi Linux is an awesome, and dare I say necessary, project.

There is value in learning how to relinquish a constant "defensive posture" mentally. (I have struggled with, and am still working through this, personally, btw.) Heading a project like this surely challenges everyone's stoicism, though.

Agreed. There's such a victim mentality throughout this post.

While it's clear that marcan faced into headwinds, they're also definitely not somebody that I want to be around me in any kind of leadership position.

  • Can’t say I’d want you on the team characterizing a situation like this, and communicating about a situation like this, as “victim mentality.”

    There’s a lot of toxic behaviors that have wormed their way into certain parts of culture. I’m not as concerned about bright, brash men like Hector.

    • You're not concerned about somebody who incites the internet hate mob against you when they don't get their way in a technical/leadership disagreement?

      The amount of drama that this has created for Linux when the entire situation was being handled in a non-dramatic way is staggering.

      At its root, nothing about the entire situation had anything to do with marcan anyway and yet somehow he has focused an enormous amount of attention on himself and negative opinions at those he disagreed with. He habitually does things that draw attention to himself (in situations that aren't about him specifically) and then points to _any_ form of criticism he receives and cries harassment.

      Of course anyone reasonable would never want to work with him.

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    • lol - you're not concerned about having people who threaten to create a "hall of shame" for kernel developers??!

      Jesus, I wouldn't want to work with either of you...

  • If you're trying to convince people to do things, certainly don't shit talk them on social media (even if you think it's true).

Avoiding drama is a two-way street. I'm not saying marcan wasn't at least somewhat at fault here, but the reason the drama happened in the first place is a leadership crisis and Linux folks calling Rust a cancerous religion without any pushback. Might be valuable to resolve these problems instead of blaming a scapegoat, don't you think?

  • marcan wasn't even involved directly in the leadership crisis and made himself the martyr/scapegoat.

    That's the entire problem.

    He threw a shitfit after the situation was already being handled (not ideally, but handled), got the slightest bit of pushback from Linus and then threw all of his toys away but with high publicity.