Comment by chris_wot

10 months ago

I would be more likely to want to listen to T'so if he hadn't done the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiPp9YEBV0Q&t=1529s

There was a reasonable discussion about Rust, and then T'so drops the bombshell:

"I suspect part of the problem here is you're trying to convince everyone to switch over to the religion as promulgated by Rust and the reality is that ain't going to happen because we have 50 plus file systems in Linux they will not all be instantaneously converted over to rust" [26:05]

He pretty much shouts at the Rust developers, denigrates their efforts and when they explain what they are trying to do which is to understand the semantic changes.

And then T'so then starts yelling at him even more. He wonders why people are not happy with his attitude - then perhaps he should consider how he communicates. The Rust guy is trying to be constructive and T'so was not.

yeah he managed to try to sound reasonable and measured for most of that, then:

> including an upstream language community which refuses to make any kind of backwards compatibility guarantees, and which is actively hostile to a second Rust compiler implementation (I suspect because it might limit their ability to make arbitrary backwards-incompatble language changes).

with the full context of all of this it is quite obvious this is just a classic case of a software engineer being an antisocial jerk with strange vendettas in their head and who thinks the strange personal opinions they came up with in their basement are unassailable facts

  • >> including an upstream language community which refuses to make any kind of backwards compatibility guarantees, and which is actively hostile to a second Rust compiler implementation (I suspect because it might limit their ability to make arbitrary backwards-incompatble language changes).

    The guy is a poster who just can't help himself! Both points are demonstrably false.

Huh, then don't listen. So far no clear answer why Rust people are suffering daily humiliation at the hand of C coders instead of just writing their own kernel.