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Comment by IAmGraydon

8 days ago

Does anyone else see what’s really going on here? Naming a “government agency” after a meme coin? Wearing a hat in the Oval Office while talking over the (literally) sitting president? Elon is attempting to telegraph that he has no respect for the institutions of our country. Why do you think Trump did something as petty as renaming the Gulf of Mexico? It’s a litmus test to see who will follow his most inane power plays. Today, it was put into action when they banned the AP from the Oval Office and AF1 for not bending the knee on this issue. This is far darker than Elon just running amok.

Correct. It is a fascist coup by neo-nazis.

  • I don't really disagree, but it's also becoming pointless to use these terms. Naming Trump/Musk as fascists is mostly correct but all this does is make his adherents question whether fascism is "really all that bad" (or reject with lines like "NAZIs were socialist [nonsense] and Trump isn't a socialist, ergo..."

    It's not enough to point out that Trump is fascist and therefore bad. You need to go the next step and say why fascism is bad.

    (Yes, we've gotten to this timeline, where we have to go back and actually describe why fascism is bad -- where the press is reporting on proposed ethnic cleansing in Gaza with statements like "outlandish plan" and "unrealistic" rather than naming it for what it is: a brutal and immoral plan to exterminate an entire people. Oh, and now we need to explain why that is actually a Really Awful Thing)

This is so much worse than 9-11, so, so much worse. Maybe the first tower still has yet to fall, maybe the fireball has faded and the firefighter are climbing the stairs and you think they'll soon be able to rescue you, but the fire is burning white hot under the surface and the steel getting hotter and softer by the minute.

You do not need to look far at all to find tiny changes made by past administrations that have had massive unforeseen consequences. We are absolutely cooked.

Exactly, you make up nonsense, call it official, and when they won’t go along with it you ban them for spreading lies. Autocracy 101.

America's entrepreneurial spirits have worked up a persecution complex and want their revenge. They will implement protectionist policy, push on spending cuts before tax reforms ("look at what we saved!") and then expect the market to climb while they liquidate their hundred-billion dollar portfolios and move to an island to retire.

At least, that's the theory. I don't think America wants to admit that the CCP has their industrial capacity by the balls and can direct it with centralized planning to displace America's EV market or naval tonnage at will. There's an assumption that deregulation will finally be the panacea to America's issues, but we can't pursue that consistent with a policy of global trade. We can't sanction the ICC and demand other countries extradite their criminals to the US. We can't abandon the Human Rights Council and then demand other countries respect our moral authority.

It's going to be another 4 years of the civilized world proving they don't need America. And Trump is going to spend it flattering dictators abroad while everyone else taps their foot waiting for another primary. Stagnation is a best case scenario, a-la 2016 - our saving grace is that most of America's serious adversaries are also hurting quite a bit right now. Trump sitting in the Nixon or Regan seat would have been game-over for America.

  • > 4 years

    What makes you think they’ll respect that law?

    Assuming he makes it that long, he’ll have a third term. They’ll make some lunatic reading of the law to justify state legislatures selecting electors. The supine courts will rubber stamp anything.

    • Well he certainly made a big fuss the first time around, but it didn't stop him from losing. I can't predict the future but I also struggle to imagine how the "third term" scenario would even go. Trump's reelection issue is persistently that his policy-making is so poor that it basically advertises the opposition as soon as the primary starts. The DNC just has to pull back their radical candidates and push an affable nobody like Joe Biden and collect their free win.

      The GOP's support isn't guaranteed throughout this administration, and they know a successor needs to be found. Amending the constitutional term limit would be a source of bipartisan outcry, because neither party would survive it.

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  • I think that while Euro-American split was to be expected - we don't care about Pacific, they don't care about Russia - I think nobody expected USA to actually become hostile, and not just become neutral.

    • My European friend, just imagine us Canadians ... left behind in the water next to the sinking ship with the suicidal captain demanding you join him and clutching at your boat trying to bring you down...

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