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Comment by alxjrvs

7 days ago

> “We tested bleach,” he said at one point. “I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes.”

> “A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world,” Trump began, clearly thinking the question himself, “So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too. It sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.”

To read this in any other way than "The president suggested we blast people with UV rays or inject them with disinfectant - such as bleach, the disinfectant he just mentioned as being effective" feels like a tremendous amount of mental gymnastics, bordering on willful ignorance. Cross your eyes and maybe I'm being flippant about "bleach", wherein he only merely suggested injecting "disinfectant", which renders him a genius, I imagine?

He ranted about two common disinfectant strategies for inorganic materials and suggested they use them on people, because he's not particularly bright.

Edit: Also worth mentioning that the following day when asked what he meant by that, he did not say "I did not ask about injecting bleach", he said "I asked about that sarcastically".

> I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen … I was asking a sarcastic, and a very sarcastic, question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. But it does kill it, and it would kill it on the hands and that would make things much better. That was done in the form of a sarcastic question to the reporters.

So it would appear not even Mr. Trump agrees with your statement.

I stand by my comment. Thank you for sharing the full quote.

> I'm being flippant about "bleach", wherein he only merely suggested injecting "disinfectant"

Yes. Fact: trump did not say to inject bleach. He also did not tell the public to inject anything.

  • Sorry, let me spell it out for you;

    I refer to this incident colloquially as "The time trump told us to inject bleach", which would be more accurately described as "The time the president of america was so balls-on stupid that he rambled for five minutes about doctors using bleach and UV disinfectant to fight Covid, a ramble so incoherent that the CDC had to issue a warning to ignore what it appeared he was suggesting."

    I have no desire to treat the "intelligence" behind that statement - or those with full throated support of his incredible genius - with any authority.

    The "White Power" was the evil (though, quite stupid in its own right) part. The "Bleach" was the "stupid" part of my comment, and I stand by it.

    • You mean the time a president (a non medical expert who doesn’t claim to be) tried to theorize about mechanisms by which a covid treatment could be delivered using ordinary language? And all of those mechanisms are real forms of treatment in other contexts?

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  • Communication is a two way street, and the fact that people heard “inject bleach” means that’s what Trump communicated. That we are arguing about this years later proves the point. You can say that’s not what he meant, but that’s what he communicated. He had experts there that day who are eloquent and have precise command over the science and the English language, unlike him. He chose to sideline them because his ego wanted attention, so he confused the nation at a time we were in need of clarity. He played no role except to make everything worse. His absence would have been the best thing he could have done for everyone that day. Failure of leadership at a critical juncture.

    • > the fact that people heard “inject bleach” me

      You mean how did the aggressive media find a sentence they could give to their base to get clicks, that he didn’t even say? Give me a break.

      Miscommunications happen. Now you’ve been corrected. Stop repeating false claims.

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