Comment by masklinn

5 days ago

> I suspect they've reached the stage where they don't even need to pretend to pay lip service to their notional values.

It took 6 weeks for that milk to rot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi...

X/Twitter should publicly provide a suspension reason - that would help a lot in verifying whether the account did/did not break TOS.

A justification [0] of sorts is provided for the journalist suspensions:

> Criticizing me all day long is totally fine, but doxxing my real-time location and endangering my family is not

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2022_Twitter_suspensi...

  • That's not a new problem though, platforms have been kicking people off with no clear reason for years.

    • Those platforms have not, however, been billing themselves as champions of unfettered free speech before handing out arbitrary unexplained bans when their feelings got hurt or they disliked the speech.

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    • That's true, but there's no reason Twitter/X has to stay like that.

      Stack Overflow has a pretty good model. It does not remove suspended accounts nor their posts (except those directly related to the suspension). It subtly signals that an account is in suspension by reducing the account's 'reputation' (internet points) to 1 and placing a small notice on the profile, usually stating the reason for the suspension (e.g. suspicious voting etc).

A couple of journalists broke Twitters rule on doxxing, and were briefly suspended.

Wikipedia cops a lot of criticism for being politically biased. The fact it has a whole article around this seems to support that.

  • > A couple of journalists broke Twitters rule on doxxing, and were briefly suspended.

    That is a complete lie. Musk "updated" twitter rules to ban the tracking of private jets (namely his) despite that being public information, and immediately proceeded to suspend accounts having relayed that public information, and accounts which had mentioned or linked to such, or to aviation tracker websites.

    Musk also routinely singles out individuals of companies or administrations he dislikes e.g. https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-bullying-federal-wor...

    • Doxing often involves linking data in public datasets to de-anonymised individuals. Using ADS-B to achieve that is just an implementation detail.

      Ultimately, there's little doubt that sharing the real time location of named private individuals is doxing.

      It's true that Twitter suspended journalists only 24 hours after the ban on doxing went live, but the penality was minor, and journalists were allowed back after they removed the offending content.

  • What exactly is it about that article that leads you to label it as politically biased? I see nothing but apparently factual information without any commentary.

    • It's existence.

      A couple journalists broke a social media platform's rule on doxxing, and were temporarily suspended for it.

      This wouldn't meet the standard for notability if it occurred on any other platform.

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  • The rules on doxing are applied haphazardly.

    Musk is fine with censorship with his Chinese CCP friends, anyway, so the hypocrisy is as big as his Melon.

  • > link to Watergate Scandal article

    > Wikipedia’s political bias confirmed

    • A president breaking the law, vs a few low-level journalists breaking a doxxing policy of a social media website.

      Hardly equivalent in terms of notability.

  • When you say "Wikipedia" do you mean the site operators, or the volunteer editors? If there is a factually incorrect statement in the article, instead of complaining about bias you can always edit it or start a section in the Talk page on the article. Be a part of the group and reduce its perceived bias.

    The simple existence of a page that documents an event is not evidence of political bias, and that accusation says more about your own biases than it does Wikipedia editors.

    • The editors.

      The problem is that notability is very subjective, and wikipedia's editors are notorious for applying a low threshold for information critical of those on the right, and high threshold for information critical of the left.

      Suspending a few journalists for doxxing would not meet the notability threshold for an article to exist, if it occured on any other platform.

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