Comment by holoduke

4 days ago

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Musk is part of the administration that has threatened to take European territory by force. He's meddling in—and funding according to some sources—extremism in Germany.

Neither he, nor his administration, have been overly bothered to characterize themselves as friends of Europe, and Europeans are returning the feelings.

> Noticed there is some serious anti Trump/musk campaign going on there.

And Americans should be very concerned about Trump's coup as well - because that's what it is. There is no level of sugar coating that can cover that up.

Your logic is that someone has to be brainwashed by woke European media to dislike musk or trump?

As if right wing media have a legitimate place in a democracy. It was and will only ever be a vehicle for fascism. Maybe we Europeans enjoyed proper schools with history lessons and remember how Faschism played out last time? Besides following US media is enough to know what Musk is about.

  • It's unfair to say that no right wing media has a right to exist. Media that is hostile to democracy should be stomped out, but because its hostile to democracy (or secretly a propaganda machine run by foreign influence), not because it's right wing.

    If anything, that the classic right wing still exists, however much you might disagree with the ideology, is something to hope for.

    • My dad laments that "Caring about the environment used to be a Conservative position" and "We just need to take the effort to care about people who are different from us" and "I think the gun rights people take it too far and it's fine to have regulation on gun ownership".

      But he didn't vote for a classic conservative. He voted for Trump.

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As somebody from Europe.. it is. The media is extremely biased and left-oriented. As soon as something is slightly more right leaning it immediately gets labelled as extreme-right here.

  • Wildly untrue, European media is very diverse, and where it sits on average from an American point of view varies from country to country. It may turn out to be not right-leaning enough for your personal tastes, but that doesn't mean it isn't from the PoV of that particular country.

  • As someone from Europe.. it is not true. There are lots of media outlets with different angles. Certainly lots of Murdoch funded garbage here.

  • We need to recalibrate the overton window. Anything remotely based in reality is immediately labelled far-left these days.

    • You do this by knowing the talking points and asking the right questions. Many questions cant be answered easily. And this leads to Rethinking.

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