Comment by orf

3 days ago

Christoph Hellwig seems fun to interact with. He drive-by posts the same, repeated points and seemingly refuses to engage with any replies.

AFAICT his only response in that thread:

> Right now the rules is Linus can force you whatever he wants (it's his project obviously) and I think he needs to spell that out including the expectations for contributors very clearly.

>> For myself I can and do deal with Rust itself fine, I'd love bringing the kernel into a more memory safe world, but dealing with an uncontrolled multi-language codebase is a pretty sure way to get me to spend my spare time on something else. I've heard a few other folks mumble something similar, but not everyone is quite as outspoken.

He gets villianized and I don't think all his interactions were great, but this seems pretty reasonable and more or less in line with what other people were asking for (clearer direction from Linus).

That said, I don't know, maybe Linus's position was already clear...

  • Maybe, but "spreads like cancer" is not part of a well-reasoned technical discussion, but of an emotional one.

    • In many languages, like Italian which I am a native speaker of, to "spread like a cancer" doesn't have the negative subtext of the English idiom. It just means it spreads, wildly, uncontrollable. In English it gets muddled with the very negative idiom of "being a cancer", i.e. being very bad if not fatal.

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    • You're confusing language that causes a strong emotional response within you, with language that was written by a person experiencing strong emotion.

      It's colourful language for sure, but gimme a break.

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