Comment by johnnyanmac
1 year ago
Similar to Roe v Wade and Chevron, they'd need to overturn Trump v. United States and then charge him with crime (or contempt). So there is a ball in the judicial branch if they get pushed too far. Just extra steps.
The 4th one is us getting a retroactive watergate effect where republicans wake up and approval plummets. There's a non-zero chance Trump steps down if he pisses off everyone.
This only happens with some truly heinous actions that can't be spun. Like, bombing american soil or a ulta-blatant conspiracy with China/Russia. Or you know, him killing Medicare/social security (the most likely actions, given the budget proposal).
>> Similar to Roe v Wade and Chevron, they'd need to overturn Trump v. United States and then charge him with crime (or contempt). So there is a ball in the judicial branch if they get pushed too far. Just extra steps.
_Who_ would charge him with a crime? Prosecution is the responsibility of the Executive branch via the Department of Justice. The only option the court would have is Contempt, and I don't see that being particularly effective.
The only legal avenue this order leaves open is impeachment, and because that requires a 2/3rds majority in the Senate, there's all sorts of ways to prevent it. Even if the republican senators started to oppose him, the DoJ could be used to threaten and investigate senators who step out of line. Or a violent mob could be used to interrupt the impeachment vote.
>_Who_ would charge him with a crime? Prosecution is the responsibility of the Executive branch via the Department of Justice.
He only needs to piss off two SCOTUS's to start to have the entire book thrown at him. Unlike Congress, Judges tend to be somewhat resiliant to the political atmosphere. That's a lot more viable than congress. Less people to squabble with and people less concerned about losing their job. I woudn't even count out the entire DoJ on this either.They've been denying some of Trump's craziest EO's.
>Or a violent mob could be used to interrupt the impeachment vote.
Good. I'm tired of being blamed for "rebellion" everytime someone stands in front of a building with a sign. Let Jan 6th repeat while all eyes are on the Capitol looking at Trump.
January sixth was an insurrection, that fact is not changed by trump pardoning the traitors who terrorized Congress that day.