Pretty sure they’re doing this blitzkrieg because what they’re doing is illegal and if they don’t get it done quickly, they’ll get stopped by the courts and probably arrested.
Upgrades should be sustainable, incremental, gradual, and reviewed. Especially for governance systems. If there's no existential risk requiring moving fast, then it's a bad idea to move fast on these things. Governments are not companies.
The Curtis Yarvin utopian fantasy is no government coupled with mythical "network states". An uncontrolled experiment that's cynically really to defang the government to lower all barriers for the rich making more money.
It's their goal to destroy the federal government. They'll likely tank the tank the economy and sell federal land to themselves for cheap to set up their network states where they can be their own tech CEO kings.
Before the courts can catch up, they lose power in the Senate or those affected can organise. There's also something to be said for disorienting your opponents. Plus it gets things done faster without dragging it out. It's wins all round.
GP: They absolutely will make something good out of it, but for their benefit not the average American.
Sure but I wouldn't even call it "something good" at all. The government is owned by the people and must work for the public good. One critical function of that is limiting exploitation of the people by business and preventing the hoarding of wealth and power by a few.
Continuing: the solution is "people power". Everyone should join a union, for starters.
It has to be done quickly because the administrative state is large and there is a lot to do. Institutions grow old with time and need drastic reform or replacement. I don’t know what they will replace everything with, ideally they have a bunch of smart people thinking about that. Look at how FDR used the Bureau of the Budget to similar effect.
> I don’t know what they will replace everything with, ideally they have a bunch of smart people thinking about that
Kind of the key issue dontcha think? Maybe woulda been good to know that before burning down the government?
"ideally they have a bunch of smart people thinking about that" is exactly what the government is for. We had a bunch of smart people thinking about a lot of our problems. They're fired now.
No, they're hiring people with no relevant experience who in one case was fired from a previous job for leaking confidential information. Another is an unapologetic cartoonishly not-subtle racist.
It's amazing to me how every time DOGE is challenged its supporters come back with "I'm sure they're doing the right thing" despite all evidence to the contrary.
I'm starting to think this ends with DOGE cutting like a few hundred million dollars of random stuff, taking out even more debt to cut everyone $5000 checks, swamp every media channel with bogus "WE CUT FIFTY TRILLION DOLLARS TO GIVE BACK TO THE PEOPLE!!!" and you guys will just lap it up without question.
> I’m sure DOGE is not just hiring random bums off the street
The fact that there isn't any transparency about their hiring process is a big flashing red light that there was no hiring process.
These people are against DEI "because we should only be hiring the best, not focusing on race/etc."
So be transparent and show the damn receipts to prove you hired the best. Who did they screen. How was it that Big Balls beat out a pool of qualified applicants.
I'll wager they can't show their receipts because they don't have them. These anti-DEI people really just want to lazily revert back to a good ol' boys network, hiring only from their in-group or just hiring the very first candidate they personally like, regardless of their actual qualifications. The hiring process went something like this: "this kid was recommended by some billionaire's brother-in-law, and he went to an elite school so obviously he's qualified. The End."
> They need to move fast in order to replace the old system.
Why?
Pretty sure they’re doing this blitzkrieg because what they’re doing is illegal and if they don’t get it done quickly, they’ll get stopped by the courts and probably arrested.
And pardoned within minutes
replace the old system with what exactly? and why does it have to be done quickly?
Upgrades should be sustainable, incremental, gradual, and reviewed. Especially for governance systems. If there's no existential risk requiring moving fast, then it's a bad idea to move fast on these things. Governments are not companies.
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The Curtis Yarvin utopian fantasy is no government coupled with mythical "network states". An uncontrolled experiment that's cynically really to defang the government to lower all barriers for the rich making more money.
It's their goal to destroy the federal government. They'll likely tank the tank the economy and sell federal land to themselves for cheap to set up their network states where they can be their own tech CEO kings.
Before the courts can catch up, they lose power in the Senate or those affected can organise. There's also something to be said for disorienting your opponents. Plus it gets things done faster without dragging it out. It's wins all round.
GP: They absolutely will make something good out of it, but for their benefit not the average American.
Not even.
At this point Musk is Wile E. Coyote. He's run out of road, so he's attempting to improvise an Acme Degovernmentizer to levitate.
He's not interested in "cutting waste" but in covering his ass so US Gov can't Enron his doughy face into prison, where it belongs.
But it's going to explode, like everything else he's ever been solely and personally in charge of.
Sure but I wouldn't even call it "something good" at all. The government is owned by the people and must work for the public good. One critical function of that is limiting exploitation of the people by business and preventing the hoarding of wealth and power by a few.
Continuing: the solution is "people power". Everyone should join a union, for starters.
It has to be done quickly because the administrative state is large and there is a lot to do. Institutions grow old with time and need drastic reform or replacement. I don’t know what they will replace everything with, ideally they have a bunch of smart people thinking about that. Look at how FDR used the Bureau of the Budget to similar effect.
> I don’t know what they will replace everything with, ideally they have a bunch of smart people thinking about that
Kind of the key issue dontcha think? Maybe woulda been good to know that before burning down the government?
"ideally they have a bunch of smart people thinking about that" is exactly what the government is for. We had a bunch of smart people thinking about a lot of our problems. They're fired now.
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Big Balls, man? Really? This dude is vetted to make this change? Come on.
The kid wouldn’t be an unpaid intern at most companies. He wouldn’t pass the HR screen.
Regardless of politics, they don’t have the credentials.
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No, they're hiring people with no relevant experience who in one case was fired from a previous job for leaking confidential information. Another is an unapologetic cartoonishly not-subtle racist.
It's amazing to me how every time DOGE is challenged its supporters come back with "I'm sure they're doing the right thing" despite all evidence to the contrary.
I'm starting to think this ends with DOGE cutting like a few hundred million dollars of random stuff, taking out even more debt to cut everyone $5000 checks, swamp every media channel with bogus "WE CUT FIFTY TRILLION DOLLARS TO GIVE BACK TO THE PEOPLE!!!" and you guys will just lap it up without question.
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No, it means having a security clearance. It has a very specific meaning.
Having been thoroughly investigated by the FBI to not be an enemy or a threat to the United States.
> I’m sure DOGE is not just hiring random bums off the street
The fact that there isn't any transparency about their hiring process is a big flashing red light that there was no hiring process.
These people are against DEI "because we should only be hiring the best, not focusing on race/etc."
So be transparent and show the damn receipts to prove you hired the best. Who did they screen. How was it that Big Balls beat out a pool of qualified applicants.
I'll wager they can't show their receipts because they don't have them. These anti-DEI people really just want to lazily revert back to a good ol' boys network, hiring only from their in-group or just hiring the very first candidate they personally like, regardless of their actual qualifications. The hiring process went something like this: "this kid was recommended by some billionaire's brother-in-law, and he went to an elite school so obviously he's qualified. The End."
What gives you that confidence? I know that I wouldn’t trust 19-year-old me anywhere near a mature, nation-scale system that lives depend on.
That's a definition of "vetting" that nobody else but you seems to have proposed. Feels like a strawman.