Comment by declan_roberts

10 months ago

I don't get what's happening to civil liberty in Europe.

The empire is collapsing, so the chairs are being moved aside, the curtain behind the stage is being drawn and the ugly brick wall is being exposed...

This was Brexits doing. As we are no longer EU, we have our own cool rules such as the upcoming PM allowed to watch me take a piss law.

  • The EU is currently planning exactly the same thing with Chat Control.

    • Eu isnt 'planning' anything like that. Some Euparl MPs backed by people like Ashton Kutcher tried to push a law to spy on all chat apps. Then when the dirty web of American-style regulatory manipulation was exposed, they backed off. It was a proposal for a law by some MPs. Not something 'Eu' did.

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    • What EU is planning with chat control is much worse. The UK still requires a warrant to access your iCloud data. EU wants to force companies to install spyware on your devices that will monitor whatever you send or receive in real time without any probable cause or suspicion.

Pot, meet kettle!

Frankly, our democracies are currently in a rather precarious state.

Nothing is happening to it. Governmental overreach, and then if people really want encryption they will vote in privacy-friendly officials. Here in Oregon, USA, we have Ron Wyden, who knows more about netsec than most IT graduates.

As long as you can vote there is still civil liberty, just vote for the right people who care about this stuff.

  • None of what you just said translates to any European country.

    None.

    Executive power is very representative, not direct, with the sole exception imo being Switzerland?