Comment by rdm_blackhole
1 day ago
This is blatantly false.
The EU has been pushing to pass the Chat Control law for the last 3 years which is even worse because at least in the UK the government would still need to get a warrant for the data they want whereas the EU wants to analyze your chat messages, emails and pictures in real time without cause or need to justify themselves.
> Again and again, 'Eu' is not pushing anything like that. A few Euparl MPs backed by those like Ashton Kutcher did.
The EU is pushing for this. The EU "Going Dark" group is pushing for this as well as per https://edri.org/our-work/high-level-group-going-dark-outcom...
The fact of the matter is that if the EU was, as it's been said, for privacy this proposal would not have been on the table in the first place. It should have been stopped 3 years ago but here we are again fighting for our rights and our privacy.
And it doesn't matter how many times it gets shot down by some of the countries in the EU, the commission changes a few words and starts the process all over again because they know that sooner or later they will get it through.
You can't have it both ways. You either are for privacy or you are not. If you are then this proposal should never have seen the light of the day and the people pushing for it should have been given a warning that this was off-limits.
Instead they are biding their time so that when the time is right they can come back with a slightly altered but still incredibly damaging proposal hoping that it will pass.
The EU pro-privacy stance is joke. They want access to the same data as the US except they don't have the courage to come out and say it so they wrap it in a nice little gift bag with the words "protect the children" on it.
This is hypocrisy in it's purest form. Then some governments in the EU have the gall to call out authoritarians regimes around the world when they crack down on dissent and free speech? Give me a break!
The Chat Control law was voted down and it would not apply for UK if they'd still be in EU.
It has been voted down twice now. Guess what? That doesn't mean it's dead. It's being worked on as we speak. The last meeting was just a few weeks ago.
https://www.parlament.gv.at/dokument/XXVIII/EU/9693/imfname_...
See my comment above, it doesn't matter that it was voted down. The point is that it was allowed to go to a vote in the first place.
How do you square being pro privacy but at the same time demanding to have unlimited access to all chat messages, emails, pictures and so on of all your citizens without the need for a warrant, without justification and without the citizens having any say on the matter?
The answer is that you can't. You either are for privacy or you are not.
As for not applying to the UK, that is a moot point because as soon as the EU gets it's wish then the UK will demand the same kind of access. Why would the UK government turn down such an opportunity?