Less than half of voters voted for this. Trump didn't even get a majority of voters to agree with him.
Harris didn't either, and by a slightly worse margin.
I don't think we can make any statements about what the public wants, just based on electoral stats. And beyond that, in a more general sense, if you think that every voter actually knows all the nuance (or even the broad strokes, sometimes) of what their chosen candidate wants to do, well... I've got some news for you.
So? Most of those went in blind because of the decades of brainwashing from private media wanting to make a quick buck. Hard to call it democracy when it's missing the actual democrats.
We know better than that. People must be educated in critical thinking. Must be equipped with high quality information sources. And must be shown by example that working things out and building together is possible.
Did we do that? Us, elites? Or did we exploit their lack of education in order to enrich ourselves? Well, apparently we reap what we sow. They no longer care about democracy. Only anger.
> So? Most of those went in blind because of the decades of brainwashing from private media wanting to make a quick buck.
So you just don’t believe in democracy and are trying to overrule the public.
All I did was point that out — why argue if that’s what you believe is correct?
> And must be shown by example that working things out and building together is possible.
The reason Trump won is because he brought in people disregarded by the system and across traditional political aisles, eg RDK Jr, Tusli Gabbard, and Nicole Shanahan.
> They no longer care about democracy. Only anger.
You can just look at these threads to see what side is lashing out in anger.
1) get his followers to accept his worldview to the exclusion of all other worldviews, and
2) lie like a cheap rug haha
Just imagine the worlds you can sell with this pair of superpowers, you don't have to materialize them into reality, you just need to say the right things during the right election cycle.
Say what you want about Trump but he's really pulled off an amazing stunt coming back from jan 6 to get right back into office. The powers of persuasion that he has coupled with the ridiculous things he says are just unprecedented and his followers either believe him or think he's trolling the libs for their benefit. We'll be discussing Trump for a long time, through whatever communication channels still exist after he departs the scene haha
Maybe me characterizing Trump as "less than truthful" might be offensive to some here, but I'm certainly not alone in this observation.
I agree with what you say here, but think there is more to it than just Trump himself. A complicit media, key backers in congress, and the courts went a long way to sanitizing his reputation over since the events of January 6th.
Beyond right-wing media's unrelenting support for him, plenty of other media outlets had no problem playing up (and probably helping to drive) economic vibes in favor of dry statistics of economic indicators. (Not that the economy has been perfect for everyone, but the post-covid recovery in America broadly seems to have done as well or better than most other countries.) Then you have the NYT running headlines like "Parkinson’s Expert Visited the White House Eight Times in Eight Months". Even if every word in such an article is entirely factual, we're clearly well into the media environment where social media and cable news networks will splash this headline (and largely only the headline) all over the place. It was clearly an editorial decision to have headlines like this dominating coverage for more than a month while Trump was ranting about Hannibal, sharks, and windmills at his rallies.
Of course the Senate and McConnell could have tried his impeachment while he was still in office at a time when it seemed like even his most ardent supporters in the media were trying to figure out how to spin things. Instead, they waited until he was out of office and then said "hey, this isn't our problem any more, let the courts handle it".
Which brings us to the courts. Without key allies like Judge Cannon (delaying and even dismissing his documents retention case) and SCOTUS (first delaying and then jumping in to intentionally tie both of Jack Smith's hands behind his back in the conspiracy case with their immunity ruling), the American public would have had far more public information to base their decision on. Plenty of his base seems to be immune to facts and evidence, but with more of this evidence in the public sphere it is certainly possible that enough swing voters would have rejected the "witch hunt" narrative.
Finally, there is the post-covid effect worldwide of incumbent parties being driven out. So yeah, I definitely think Trump's ability to manifest his reality distortion field played a large role, but he was far from acting alone. Once Trump is no longer relevant maybe we'll see that he alone was capable of wielding these superpowers, but many of these dynamics and existing power players seem poised to outlive him and I fear there is a deep well of savvy opportunists looking to replicate his success.
The budget is currently on track to increase the deficit by 4.5 Trillion. Anything you find about how he's going to cut X program is either for DEI reasons or to balance the budget.
Less than half of voters voted for this. Trump didn't even get a majority of voters to agree with him.
Harris didn't either, and by a slightly worse margin.
I don't think we can make any statements about what the public wants, just based on electoral stats. And beyond that, in a more general sense, if you think that every voter actually knows all the nuance (or even the broad strokes, sometimes) of what their chosen candidate wants to do, well... I've got some news for you.
Okay, so you just don’t believe in democracy.
But this is how our system works — and many of the same people objecting now were cheering the radical Biden regime policies.
So? Most of those went in blind because of the decades of brainwashing from private media wanting to make a quick buck. Hard to call it democracy when it's missing the actual democrats.
We know better than that. People must be educated in critical thinking. Must be equipped with high quality information sources. And must be shown by example that working things out and building together is possible.
Did we do that? Us, elites? Or did we exploit their lack of education in order to enrich ourselves? Well, apparently we reap what we sow. They no longer care about democracy. Only anger.
> So? Most of those went in blind because of the decades of brainwashing from private media wanting to make a quick buck.
So you just don’t believe in democracy and are trying to overrule the public.
All I did was point that out — why argue if that’s what you believe is correct?
> And must be shown by example that working things out and building together is possible.
The reason Trump won is because he brought in people disregarded by the system and across traditional political aisles, eg RDK Jr, Tusli Gabbard, and Nicole Shanahan.
> They no longer care about democracy. Only anger.
You can just look at these threads to see what side is lashing out in anger.
People did not vote for this.
Trump literally distanced himself the entire election cycle from Project 2025.
Trump has this unusual ability to
1) get his followers to accept his worldview to the exclusion of all other worldviews, and
2) lie like a cheap rug haha
Just imagine the worlds you can sell with this pair of superpowers, you don't have to materialize them into reality, you just need to say the right things during the right election cycle.
Say what you want about Trump but he's really pulled off an amazing stunt coming back from jan 6 to get right back into office. The powers of persuasion that he has coupled with the ridiculous things he says are just unprecedented and his followers either believe him or think he's trolling the libs for their benefit. We'll be discussing Trump for a long time, through whatever communication channels still exist after he departs the scene haha
Maybe me characterizing Trump as "less than truthful" might be offensive to some here, but I'm certainly not alone in this observation.
I agree with what you say here, but think there is more to it than just Trump himself. A complicit media, key backers in congress, and the courts went a long way to sanitizing his reputation over since the events of January 6th.
Beyond right-wing media's unrelenting support for him, plenty of other media outlets had no problem playing up (and probably helping to drive) economic vibes in favor of dry statistics of economic indicators. (Not that the economy has been perfect for everyone, but the post-covid recovery in America broadly seems to have done as well or better than most other countries.) Then you have the NYT running headlines like "Parkinson’s Expert Visited the White House Eight Times in Eight Months". Even if every word in such an article is entirely factual, we're clearly well into the media environment where social media and cable news networks will splash this headline (and largely only the headline) all over the place. It was clearly an editorial decision to have headlines like this dominating coverage for more than a month while Trump was ranting about Hannibal, sharks, and windmills at his rallies.
Of course the Senate and McConnell could have tried his impeachment while he was still in office at a time when it seemed like even his most ardent supporters in the media were trying to figure out how to spin things. Instead, they waited until he was out of office and then said "hey, this isn't our problem any more, let the courts handle it".
Which brings us to the courts. Without key allies like Judge Cannon (delaying and even dismissing his documents retention case) and SCOTUS (first delaying and then jumping in to intentionally tie both of Jack Smith's hands behind his back in the conspiracy case with their immunity ruling), the American public would have had far more public information to base their decision on. Plenty of his base seems to be immune to facts and evidence, but with more of this evidence in the public sphere it is certainly possible that enough swing voters would have rejected the "witch hunt" narrative.
Finally, there is the post-covid effect worldwide of incumbent parties being driven out. So yeah, I definitely think Trump's ability to manifest his reality distortion field played a large role, but he was far from acting alone. Once Trump is no longer relevant maybe we'll see that he alone was capable of wielding these superpowers, but many of these dynamics and existing power players seem poised to outlive him and I fear there is a deep well of savvy opportunists looking to replicate his success.
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You can just look at how happy his supporters are — and their memes about “we did vote for this”.
Again, link his actions to campaign promises.
The budget is currently on track to increase the deficit by 4.5 Trillion. Anything you find about how he's going to cut X program is either for DEI reasons or to balance the budget.