Comment by BurningFrog

1 day ago

All I know is that in this discussion, normally thoughtful and smart people are screeching that their outgroup are mean poopheads who want to ruin everything.

Broadly speaking, there are two possibilities. These "normally thoughtful and smart people" are either correct, or they are not.

Have you considered that the prior is a real possibility? I mean, the accelerationist view requires destroying that which now exists. This is not something being invented out of nowhere.

I guess my real question is: what happens if "mean poopheads who want to ruin everything" is what is actually happening? How would one have a thoughtful discussion about that? Is that even possible?

Let's take a 30,000 foot view on this. Swap, or avoid, in-out group positioning for this thought experiment.

  • I'm complaining about manners and communication style.

    If they're right or not doesn't enter into my argument.

    > How would one have a thoughtful discussion about that? Is that even possible?

    Is absolutely is. Also a pretty minimal skill requirement for me to take anyone seriously.