Comment by yupyupyups

1 year ago

Actions speak louder than words. Firefox (including derivatives) is by far the most fingerprint resistant and adblock friendly webbrowser there is.

In terms of features, it's very rich and always improving.

Mozilla also maintains arguably the best web development resource there is, which is MDN.

Mozilla's internal problems aside, some people really don't appreciate how successful Firefox, Thunderbird and MDN have been and still are.

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lukan  1 year ago

"Actions speak louder than words. "

Indeed. Talking about privacy and having spyware and ads activated by default and now this probably to legally safeguard this and more speak a very clear language.

The only reason to still use FF is indeed, that the competition is worse in this regard.

But that will change, once Ladybird becomes mature enough.

  • gf000  1 year ago

    Pinging a Mozilla server to see if there is an active and usable internet connection is not spyware, let's stop with these useless accusations.

    It's a product which optionally does accept some help from the users, e.g. opt-in error reports, which is a huge help. Certain people consider that a blatant violation of their rights for some reason, and they would apparently rather see the last bastion of a non-chrome internet die.

    • nullc  1 year ago

      If all of these 'phone home' features are as benign as you say-- why isn't there a clear, exposed, and stable user setting to disable them?

      At best there is maze of about:config which incompletely prevent firefox from phoning home and are regularly undermined by new additions.

    • lukan  1 year ago

      "Pinging a Mozilla server to see if there is an active and usable internet connection is not spyware, let's stop with these useless accusations."

      No, but have you checked your firefox settings lately?

      Meaning in the last 5 years or so? (Probably has been longer by now)

      Some updates brought "allow firefox to install and run studies".

      That sounded like experimental features, but were in reality spyware to study the user behavior to sell that data to ad companies.

      It is still there. And a more blatant checkbox by default also arrived lately. (I think just in forefox mobile)

      And then there are ads activated by default.

      https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/#health-report

      "How is your data used?"

      ... lots of seemingly innocent technical blabla

      and then

      " Firefox also shares information with our marketing partners to measure and improve these campaigns; what information is specifically shared varies (depending on how you discovered Firefox and your operating system) but generally includes how you were referred to our download page and whether you actively use Firefox. Where Firefox is pre-installed on your device, technical and interaction data (your device type and whether Firefox is used) will be sent to our marketing partners, and shared with Mozilla."

      Lots of words and details to hide the kind of important detail, that they do sell the data by default how you browse the internet. What websites you use, how long etc.

    • account42  1 year ago

      It's no business of the browser to know if there is an active and usable internet connection. All it needs to know are the responses to the URLs I have asked it to request.

itake  1 year ago

> Firefox (including derivatives) is by far the most fingerprint resistant

Do you have a source? The fingerprint detectors [0] as well as reddit's banned/duplicate account system suggests otherwise.

Maybe at one point Firefox stopped the fingerprinting, but the tools have quickly found other ways to uniquely identify me.

[0] - https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/kcarter?aat=1 https://firstpartysimulator.org/kcarter?&aat=1&a=11&t=11&dnt...