Comment by gscott

1 month ago

Does it really even matter, the Chinese force this upon all their people. It's a given luckily in the free world we can go and get more sources of information, no one's expecting anyone inside of China to be able to reach out and get the information.

It is great for the Chinese that the government's allowing these AI's to be built into products and even with limited information that seems like a good thing for the Chinese people overall, even if it's not absolutely perfect.

Western country's try to hide information from their own people as well. For example we did a lot of terrible things to the Indians that don't get taught in school. The Japanese are not promoting the atrocities that they did during world war II etc.

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jrgoff  1 month ago

I don't know what gets taught in school these days about what was done to the native groups in the US, but when and where I went to school (in the US a few decades ago) we were taught about a number of very bad things that were done: Intentional spreading of diseases, broken treaties, forced displacement, etc.

I do think there are a lot of things bad that we did and do that get ignored or glossed over but a lot of it does get (at least briefly) taught and as far as I know, other than government secrets that are recent-ish, information about these things is not repressed.

tw1984  1 month ago

> It is great for the Chinese that the government's allowing these AI's to be built into products

allowing? the CCP is arguably the world's largest investor behind AI. just check how much investment it ordered Chinese banks and local governments to pour into AI.

you read way too much censored western media.

  • fc417fc802  1 month ago

    Allowing the general public to have access. This is a country with notoriously strict information controls after all.

    • rvnx  1 month ago

      It's the same in the West, just under a more subtle form. You cannot speak, talk and read about all topics.

      In France for example, lot of topics will directly cause you legal and social troubles.

      There is no freedom of speech like in the US, and as a result the information flow is filtered.

      If you don't follow popular opinion, you will lose the state support, the TV channels can get cut (ex: C8), you can get fired from your job, etc.

      It's subtle.

      Even here, you get flagged, downvoted, and punished for not going with the popular opinion (for example: you lose investment opportunities).

      ChatGPT and Gemini, have you seen how censored they are ?

      Gemini you ask them societal questions and it will invent excuses not to answer.

      Even Grok is censored, and pushes a pro-US political stance.

      On the surface, it may seem that Grok is uncensored because it can use bad words like "shit", "fuck", etc, but in reality, it will not say anything illegal, and when you are not allowed to say something because it is illegal just to say these words, that's one of the definition of information control.

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  • gscott  1 month ago

    I'm a paying subscriber to the South China Morning Post.