Comment by fragmede

1 month ago

And if I take my regular ordinary commuter car off the paved road and onto the dirt I get stuck in the mud. That doesn't mean the whole concept of cars is worthless, instead we paved all over the world with roads. But for some reason with LLMs, the attitude is that them being unable to go offroad means everyone's totally deluded and we should give up on the whole idea.

Im not against llms. I‘m just not a fan of people that says we have agi/singularity soon. I basically dropped google to search for things about code, because even if it fails to get stuff right I can ask for the doc source and I can force it to give me a link or the exact example/wording of the docs.

But using it correctly means that especially junior developers have a way harder barrier of entry.

I don't think your analogy works for the tailwind situation, and there is no whole idea to give up on anyway. People will still be researching this hyper-complicated matrix multiplication thing, i.e. LLM, for a very long time.

Personally, the tailwind example is an argument against one specific use case: LLM-assisted/driven coding, which I also believe is the best shot of LLM being actually productive in a non-academic setting.

If I have a super-nice RL-ed (or even RLHF-ed) coding model & weights that's working for me (in whatever sense the word "working" means), and changing some function names will actually f* it up badly, then it is very not good. I hope I will never ever have to work with "programmer" that is super-reluctant to reorganize the code just to protect their pet LLM.