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Comment by _fat_santa

5 days ago

I've started seeing ads for Oracle OCI in some podcasts I listen to so I think they are starting to see if they can attract customers outside of their "enterprise sales process".

I'm not sure who those ads are supposed to appeal to besides the podcasts hosts raking in the ad dollars.

I haven’t seen the ads, but Oracle Cloud is definitely the public cloud provider with the most generous free tier. That’s not to say you should use and trust them, but I can see why many would.

  • You pay in other ways.

    I understand if you have absolutely no money, but even then repeatedly trying to provision a server and getting a error- something like no capacity available - isn't a fun time.

    Whatever, I'll pay 7$ a month to not deal with that.

    • You can automate it using their API and some Python. It's like a puzzle game and I'm personally thankful for the free tier, it's pretty cool if you max it out you have multiple IPv4 addresses, IPv6 prefixes and so on - the machines boot via UEFI, you can run nixos and ZFS on them, you have a serial console via ssh/vnc and at least in Germany they have good connectivity and 10tb Traffic is plenty. Using it for something serious? Probably not. But for tinkering it's pretty cool and interesting if you enjoying some small quests. Running incus and some Kubernetes stuff on an arm box and 24gb memory and 200gb SSD is at least 10-20€ elsewhere.

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  • My personal multicloud strategy for many years was to make full use of the free tier on as many providers as necessary.

>”enterprise sales process”

I’m sorry, is Oracle known to be some super sleazy sales org that plys enterprise decision makers with strippers and cocktails, and drugs?

  • I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there.

    Yes. Oracle is absolutely the tech vendor that's going to be dropped on the engineering team with zero input and no consideration for whether it fits the problems they have, after your CTO spends a a few days on the golf course and high end steak restaurants and, depending on how much money their enterprise sales team thinks they have, either high class escorts or sleazy strip joints. Given how common that story (or one very like it) is, I'm close to 100% certain those trips also include discreet photographers and hotel rooms wired with 4k video recording.

    • > I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there.

      Neither, but perhaps worse: I am young.

      Are there any compilations of apocryphal stories of the events you described? It sounds too fantastic to be real.

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    • > [...] I'm close to 100% certain those trips also include discreet photographers and hotel rooms wired with 4k video recording.

      Luckily, AI is about to make that particular tactic ineffective:

      When you can deepfake any video evidence, the original becomes useless.

    • This is legitimately the first time I have ever seen it brought up too! I’ve never heard about this side of them.

      Universally hated, but the legal aspects alone are hateworthy.