Comment by Jensson

16 days ago

You need an ID to do basic tasks in USA as well, everyone with a normal life has them.

Around 21 million eligible voters in the US do not have an ID that is acceptable under their state's laws.

  • And exactly what obstacles they are having with getting one?

    • Usually it comes down to travel and the challenges of documenting eligibility which can require additional travel and expenses.

      https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/chal...

      > Nearly 500,000 eligible voters do not have access to a vehicle and live more than 10 miles from the nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. Many of them live in rural areas with dwindling public transportation options. > More than 10 million eligible voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week.

      https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/how-id-requirements...

      > According to the study, between 15 and 18 million people in the U.S. lack access to documents proving their birth or citizenship, which can be integral to acquiring other forms of IDs.

      This can force circular dependencies: for example, older black or Native American people who were born when they weren’t welcome at hospitals might never have been issued a birth certificate so they first need the travel, expense, and difficulty to get one from the clerk where they were born. Poor people are far more likely not to have bank accounts, so they can’t establish their in-state residency that way, etc.

      None of these are insolvable problems but the people pushing restrictions haven’t been willing to put effort into solving them and often make things worse by cutting office locations and hours in ways which disproportionately impact poor and minority voters.

A google search tells me that around half of people in the USA do not hold a passport. Domestically most people rely on drivers licence as their ID.

  • > Domestically most people rely on drivers licence as their ID

    So show your drivers license at the voting booth? Why is that unacceptable?

    • Not everyone has drivers licenses, especially poorer folks, especially minorities. The requirements for drivers IDs are now to get RealIDs and some of these folks don't have access to things like birth certificates and other requirements of getting a RealID.

      There's also additional requirements of your gender matching your ID (which eliminates many transgender folks), your name matching on all documents (good luck if you're a married woman), etc.

      Folks are rightly pointing out that these laws are engineered to suppress votes, and you seem to not be willing to listen to understand why.

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It's getting complicated for married women. Every name change since birth has to be documented to get a Real ID.

A black woman jumping between three jobs to make ends meet in Alabama doesn't have a "normal" life, then. Too bad for her! And for millions like her, in a country where elections are decided by single-digit majorities.