Comment by mjamesaustin

17 days ago

Any form of ID held by the average voter will be unacceptable to the GOP, because it won't limit voting access from the people they don't want voting.

That doesn't explain why democrat run states like California can't have a sensible voter ID law that accepts such identifications?

If they just said "accept more IDs" instead of "stop voter ID requirements" people wouldn't think its a problem, but that isn't what democrats are saying.

  • The crux of the argument is that voting is a right, and voter ID laws create a unnecessary burden to exercising that right given the extremely low levels of individual voter fraud. Do I need my driver's license to practice free speech? Do I need my passport to be allowed to be an atheist?

    It would be different if we were solving a problem with voter ID laws because then you're balancing rights with real pragmatism. You can as hypothetical about it as you want, you can go down the slippery slope fallacy if you want, but the evidence shows us we do not have an issue here.

    It would also be different if IDs were easier to come by, because then the burden is not disproportionate to the problem. But neither of these things are true.

    Instead we're just enacting barriers to the use of our constitutional rights, barriers to participation in society, not to solve a problem but to enact a political end.

  • What problem are you trying to solve here? Republicans say the problem is people voting who are ineligible, Democrats accuse them of trying to make it harder for democratic voters to vote.

    • > What problem are you trying to solve here

      People using others papers to vote, that is much harder if you must display a photo ID together with the papers you received that says you are allowed to vote.

      Voting without an ID is like opening a bank account without an ID, its just dumb. Oh wait, I heard you had that as well in USA, which is why you have issues with identity theft...

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