Comment by ryzvonusef

17 days ago

I have been a John Oliver viewer from the first season, and my comment will be the same as what I said 9 years ago: This is bullship.

Start small, but START. Start from Democrats accepting what every LEFT leaning person the rest of the world accepts: Photo ID is necessary, not to reduce voter fraud or whatever, but necessary to increase TRUST in the system.

It's a cost, just pay it. Yes you will lose 'face' to republicans, don't care.

Start small, start with free/cheap photo ID in deep democratic cities (I know local govt providing service, what an idea!).

Once saturation reaches 80% plus, start enforcing voter ID laws to cajole the last 20% to start applying, carrot and stick. Start offering door-step service for those unable.

Democrats pay taxes, don't they? start using them.

Spread to other cities in democratic states. So what if it takes 10-20 year? Times passes like nothing.

And once you have SET the standard of cheap, reliable access to Photo ID... and when democrats in power in the federal government again, they can use that to help implement cheap photo ID elsewhere, but even if Missouri doesn't get voter ID, it doesn't excuse democratic states NOT having it.

The fact that the DMV is only open three days a month or whatever? If it's a democrat led city, FIX it. If it's a republican city, you can come to it later.

But NOT starting, as some sort of fake 'rights' issue? Bullship.

Start. Start Small, Start NOW. in 25 years you won't even remember this.

So democrats should spend all this money, time and resources solving a problem they don’t have. And for what purpose? Nah I will rather my Democrat state focus on human welfare and giving people opportunities to progress in life

  • > Nah I will rather my Democrat state focus on human welfare and giving people opportunities to progress in life

    That sounds like it would be way easier if those people had id's...

The UK Labour government was opposed to Photo ID it was the right wing that introduced it.

It is an Anglo-American thing not to have PhotoID probably related to never been invaded in the last two hundred years.

The issue is that to get back in power the Democrats need votes top overturn Republicans and so the IDs in Republican states matter those in Democrat states do not. So better top show full disapproval as they won't lose any seats over that and can keep some pressure up.

  • I feel this same issue was behind Brexit.

    Some people in the UK had the same 'oh no we are being outnumbers' sort of mentality, and without mandatory ID, they had no sane voice in their head to tell them 'don't be silly, we track people with cards'.

    It's funny how much the existence of the card gives the masses a weird sense of peace.

Would you like to remind them also what NADRA has Ahmedis sign (half-nama)? I don’t think John Oliver would be very happy about that…

  • And? That's bigotry, a totally different issue from accessibility.

    The population WANTS this piece of bigotry, heck our ancestors voted for the damn thing it, it's literally the 2nd amendment of our the constitution.

    You can't blame NADRA for including it in their forms, they do it on government demand. Heck, I had to sign the damn thing to get my damn passport, there is no escaping it.

    But NADRA also has vans that go village by village providing photo-ID on the doorstep. And THAT is accessibility.

    Do I wish this piece of bigotry wasn't in on our forms? Yes. Today Ahmedis; tomorrow Shias; day after who knows, it might be me.

    Does it mean CNIC are BAD? NO, they are perhaps the only actually part of cour damn governance, being able to provide ID.

    We could obviously do better, but NOT having ID is crazy.