Comment by mirkodrummer

5 days ago

I don't get it, they pretend they made this new proposal because of security and battery life. And then we have dozens of native apps installed that push tons of useless notifications for upselling shit and clutter the screen... I had to disable all of them. So i don't understand why they fear web push so much

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jchw  5 days ago

I always disable push notifications for the very first push notification I receive that is an advertisement regardless of service. And what's crazy is, basically everyone does it now. Amazon does it, even, and I don't think there's an obvious way to just disable ads. Fine, fuck you, I'll just use e-mail, then.

om2  5 days ago

iOS and macOS native app notifications already work the way Declarative Web Push does, not like classic Web Push. This is giving web apps the same ability to be battery friendly and more reliable that native apps already have.

  • mirkodrummer  5 days ago

    again battery friendly how? because you install them first? please... as I said native apps still abuse notification system(and battery) pushing ads. Apple just hate the web platform, and them trying to push alternative solutions is just PR for how little they care about PWAs and their progression

    • om2  5 days ago

      Battery friendly because notifications can be coalesced by the OS and processed without having to fire up a full browser engine process and JS VM just to unpack the notification and post a visible notification.

      Even in the case where the app needs local processing to show the best notification, having this as fallback removes the risk that the app misses the deadline to display a visible notification and therefore loses its push subscription (which is a behavior Chrome and Firefox have too).

      We're also not removing classic Web Push, so web apps can deny themselves the benefits of Declarative Web Push if they don't like it.