Comment by jmyeet
9 days ago
Let me connect the dots for anyone confused.
Last Spring in particular there were a bunch of student protests against the genocide being done by Israel with material support from the US. Many of these protestors were themselves Jewish. Organizations such as the Jewish Voice for Peace [1] were heavily involved. Jewish people in the US have a long history of being active in civil rights movements. Notably, 3 of the 4 of the students who were killed by the National Guard at Kent State in 1968 were Jewish.
Genocide (and apartheid) supporters try and silence dissent by claiming anti-Zionism (that is, opposition to Israel as a settler-colonial state) is anti-Semitism, which it is not. For every Jewish Zionist in the US there are 20-30 Christian Zionists who are motivated by bringing on the Rapture [2]. It's worth pointing out that if this prophecy were to actually come true, all the Jews in Israel would be killed. The point here is that many Zionists are actually anti-Semitic.
The state came down hard on such protestors. There have been something like ~3500 arrests of college protestors (compared to ~1300 for January 6, an actual coup attempt). There's lots of lies disseminated to demonize the protestors. For example, false claims that Columbia protestors blocked Jewish students from going to classes.
The administration has used research funding as a weapon to bring colleges into line to expel or otherwise punish studnets who protested, implement policies to say that criticism of the state of Israel was anti-Semitism and so on. Columbia, in particular, has already completely capitulated.
All of this is a direct attack on free speech to silence any protest or critcism of US foreign policy in the Middle East. Columbia is being made an example of but it's odd that this is potentially going forward to a consent decree since Columbia has already fallen in line.
But it goes so much further than this. Protestors and organizers have been targeted for unlawful deportation. They have in some cases been black-bagged and illegally kidnapped 1000 miles away without due process and then deported without seeing an immigration judge to have a deportation hearing, under the ludicrous "state of emergency" related to a Venezuelan gang.
So where is ICE, who is the Gestapo in this scenario, getting these names? From places like the Canary Mission [3]. Canary Mission had already engaged in doxxing protestors. Now they seemingly have the ear of the administration to point the finger and have opponents black-bagged and sent to El Salvadore to a prison on a seemingly indefinite sentence.
This is the 1930s Nazi Germany playbook.
[1]: https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
[2]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/us-evangelical...
[3]: https://www.thenation.com/article/world/canary-mission-israe...
I'm so incredibly sad due to this state of affairs. I don't even know what to do really. Do I drop everything, try to get a law degree, and fight via the law even though this administration doesn't really seem to heed it?
What I've done is just set aside a percentage of my paycheck to go towards democratic lawyers fighting this as well as get involved in protest locally. Connect with your local community.
Nobody involved in pro-Palestine protests has been sent to El Salvador. AFAIK only Venezuelan or Salvadoran nationals accused of membership in Tren de Aragua or MS-13 have been sent there. (If I'm wrong please correct me!)
Mahmoud Khalil hasn't been deported (yet) but he was absolutely black-bagged and sent to Lousiana pending deportation, despite being a lawful permanent resident and not being accused of any criminal conduct [1]. His crime? Involvement in pro-Palestinian protests [2].
You are correct that, to the best of our knowledge, no pro-Palestinian protestor has thus far been deported to El Salvador.
The precedent here is what's important, meaning the government is arguing that they have the right to deport anyone they want for pretty much any reason and put them in a foreign prison indefinitely.
The legal justification for all this is an over 200 year old law called the Alien and Seditions Act and a declared state of emergency and invasion/incursion by a Venezuelan gang, something which has gotten at least some support from the Supreme Court [3].
Secretary of State Marco Rubio has basically come out and said that Khalil is being deported for his views. If these people don't have rights to free speech and due process then nobody does.
[1]: https://apnews.com/article/mahmoud-khalil-columbia-universit...
[2]: https://www.axios.com/2025/03/09/ice-arrests-palestinian-act...
[3]: https://www.livenowfox.com/news/supreme-court-lifts-order-bl...
Technically at the time of the arrest he was accused of criminal conduct, but not charged with criminal conduct. I believe he is still within the legally required timeline to be charged with criminal conduct, though he may be subject to deportation without such charges, we'll see.
Your second and third point is confused. The foundation for the government's belief they can deport Khalil is not the Alien Enemies Act (which is what I assume you mean, as there is no Alien and Seditions Act-the term "Alien and Seditions Acts" refers to four separate acts, one of which is the Alien Enemies Act), it's the Immigration and Nationality Act, the same basis Trump tried to use for Executive Order 13769. More specifically, I think they're using 8 U.S.C. § 1227(a)(4)(C)(i).
That said, the government is absolutely using the Alien Enemies Act to round up people and send them to El Salvador.
>If these people don't have rights to free speech and due process then nobody does.
So this is an interesting legal question because non-citizens definitely do not have complete free speech protections, but the border of where their speech is protected vs unprotected is not entirely clear. It's not true that if they don't, nobody does - it is absolutely clear that citizens of the United States do have rights to free speech and due process. That has been established many times.
6 replies →
You know, I was worried there for a second but then you said they were accused of something mildly bad, so I feel much better now.
[dead]
[flagged]
you forgot:
no mention of six-headed monsters running around either…
no mention of bigfoot teaching 1st year math…
no mention of zombies chasing students in the school cafeteria…
If we're doing reader bewares, this pile of unsupported, low effort allegations is ridiculous.
"Jews not being able to get into school buildings"
You mean jewish students might have been temporarily delayed by protesters, along with, you know, everyone else in the crowd?
Qatar donated billions... to who, exactly? And who was required to disclose these made up donations? Come on man, billions?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatari_involvement_in_higher...
Thought this was common knowledge at this point.
"Approximately 200 colleges and universities in the United States concealed information regarding about $13 billion in unreported donations from foreign countries, much of which originating from Qatar."
"Reports on antisemitism in the United States indicated that between 2015 and 2020, institutions receiving funding from Middle Eastern donors experienced, on average, a 300% higher incidence of antisemitic incidents compared to those that did not. During the same period, institutions receiving undisclosed funds from Qatari donors had, on average, 250% more anti-Semitic incidents than those that did not.[18][1][6]"
Cite your sources.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatari_involvement_in_higher...
Thought this was common knowledge at this point.
"Approximately 200 colleges and universities in the United States concealed information regarding about $13 billion in unreported donations from foreign countries, much of which originating from Qatar."
1 reply →