The entertaining thing for you is the university response and it doesn't concern you that the government is blatantly forcing ideology on people via every lever of power they can?
I'm not supporting the government... Instead I was bemused by how Columbia just folded on all points, after lecturing the world from its position of absolute superiority.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years is that the easiest way to tell who one's real enemy is to see whom they extend no leeway to, never forgive, equivocate, or apologize for, whom they actively criticize at every turn, and who's misfortune they enjoy. Even, and especially when, that person or group is legitimately victimized. It's extremely telling.
With all the blaring red signs of fascism taking over the federal government, a brazen and direct assault on free speech staring us right in the face, we get people still taking potshots the "wokes".
I guess it's not fascism if its against people you disagree with.
"You must disband these groups, including the National Lawyer's Guild student group. In addition, you must discipline officers and members of these groups, and you must make them ineligible to join any other student group."
Sorry, I'll take "holier than thou" institutions over government-mandated "these student groups are acceptable and these are not".
"You must ban all masks and have penalties no less than suspension for any violation".
Oh yes, look at these ethical high ground ivory tower types...
The mask obsession these people still have is just amazing. So angry at being told to wear a mask during a pandemic that they want to ban anyone else from doing it now. I would expect better behavior from a toddler.
One might reasonably interpret events like that as protestors engaged in activity that is not protected by the First Amendment, is criminal and/or violates other student’s civil rights and/or improperly interferes with the activities of others. And one might credibly imagine that some of the protesters knew this and were wearing masks to hide their identities. And one might further credibly argue that, in 2024, these students were not likely to be wearing masks outdoors for health reasons.
Of course, the letter to Harvard doesn’t really explain what kind of mask ban is imagined or why it’s appropriate to ban masks when students are merely going about their ordinary business.
It has nothing to do with the pandemic. The ban on masks is about whether or not protesters are actually students. Masks have been used to conceal identities when taking over buildings or shutting down classes.
The entertaining thing for you is the university response and it doesn't concern you that the government is blatantly forcing ideology on people via every lever of power they can?
I'm glad my sarcasm was misplaced.
I'm not supporting the government... Instead I was bemused by how Columbia just folded on all points, after lecturing the world from its position of absolute superiority.
Interesting one to watch now.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years is that the easiest way to tell who one's real enemy is to see whom they extend no leeway to, never forgive, equivocate, or apologize for, whom they actively criticize at every turn, and who's misfortune they enjoy. Even, and especially when, that person or group is legitimately victimized. It's extremely telling.
With all the blaring red signs of fascism taking over the federal government, a brazen and direct assault on free speech staring us right in the face, we get people still taking potshots the "wokes".
I guess it's not fascism if its against people you disagree with.
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I'm sorry Harvard has disappointed your synicism
"You must disband these groups, including the National Lawyer's Guild student group. In addition, you must discipline officers and members of these groups, and you must make them ineligible to join any other student group."
Sorry, I'll take "holier than thou" institutions over government-mandated "these student groups are acceptable and these are not".
"You must ban all masks and have penalties no less than suspension for any violation".
Oh yes, look at these ethical high ground ivory tower types...
The mask obsession these people still have is just amazing. So angry at being told to wear a mask during a pandemic that they want to ban anyone else from doing it now. I would expect better behavior from a toddler.
It’s unclear how much is residual anti-mask sentiment from the pandemic and how much is related to events like this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68923528
One might reasonably interpret events like that as protestors engaged in activity that is not protected by the First Amendment, is criminal and/or violates other student’s civil rights and/or improperly interferes with the activities of others. And one might credibly imagine that some of the protesters knew this and were wearing masks to hide their identities. And one might further credibly argue that, in 2024, these students were not likely to be wearing masks outdoors for health reasons.
Of course, the letter to Harvard doesn’t really explain what kind of mask ban is imagined or why it’s appropriate to ban masks when students are merely going about their ordinary business.
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They want to ban it for absolute facial recognition coverage, and pretty much nothing else.
It has nothing to do with the pandemic. The ban on masks is about whether or not protesters are actually students. Masks have been used to conceal identities when taking over buildings or shutting down classes.
The mask ban isn’t about covid. The purpose is to facilitate facial recognition. It is analogous to the HK protests a few years ago: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49931598.amp