Comment by gambiting

12 days ago

>>Do we sacrifice a democracy for the dollar?

What democracy? Whose democracy?

Trump just blamed Zelensky for the war in Ukraine again. The entire administration keeps saying they will make Canada the 51st state and "destroy canada economically". They want to take Greenland by force. I don't think America cares much about democracy anymore, only dollars. China will take Taiwan and US will will keep buying chips like they always did.

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eagleislandsong  12 days ago

> cares much about democracy anymore

Anymore? Arguably, the US never did. Ask, for example, the people living in Caribbean or Latin American countries what happened when they elected leaders that the US disliked.

Or Iran. Or Italy. Or Congo. And so on.

Or ask the Indonesians about the mass killings in their country in 1965-1966, supported by the US. Around 500,000 people died, though some estimates put the number of deaths at 1,000,000. Ask the Filipinos about how the US propped up their military dictatorship back in the 1970s-1980s.

I could keep going, but I think you get the point. The US has never been sincerely interested in democracy -- only strategically. The illusion that the US cared about democracy was a primarily Western luxury.

gjsman-1000  12 days ago

And when a Democrat is back in power in 2029, and China invades in 2030, what will she do? Protect Taiwan and destroy the US economy as we endure the equivalent of an infinite tariff; or appear weak by saying “that’s a shame”, even if China is doing a Great Leap Forward on the population?

  • gambiting  12 days ago

    I don't know and I wouldn't even hazard a guess. My entire observation right now as a non American is that America doesn't care about democracy anymore.

danaris  12 days ago

> I don't think America cares much about democracy anymore, only dollars.

I don't think it's a good idea to assign Trump's beliefs, or those of his administration, to America as a whole. Any more, frankly, than it's a good idea to assign those of his opposition to the country as a whole.