Comment by ty6853
1 month ago
Because it's not just parents that raise children, it's our elders. You're paying property taxes to raise the children. You are contributing to society in ways that aid children. To the extent that your logic holds, you definitely do not deserve nothing. When you pay SS up to the elders you are in effect paying dividends on the investment they made in you, finally paying back into what they spent on you. The paying back happens when you pay SS, that's you settling the reciprocal arrangement. It makes no sense the youth (or if you insist, other people's children) would owe you for settling the reciprocation to your own elders.
My stance has and remains that the payoff from children, if it is to be violently enforced at the hand of the taxman as it is now, should be proportional to the investment, there is no reason to restrict that to just parents, it just happens to be that parents generally make the lions share of the investment.
>You still haven’t explained how you made this leap from elders to parents
It's a leap to refer to social security benefits as paid to (at least on average by far) our elders? .
> When you pay SS up to the elders you are in effect paying dividends on the investment they made in you
That’s not how Social Security works. The current Social Security beneficiaries made contributions to their seniors, not to me (their junior).
>That’s not how Social Security works
And thus you understand. That's my whole point! That is my objection! But to be clear I didn't say that's how SS works, I said that's how the reciprocation works -- I did not say that's when you pay back the SS money elders paid you (they didnt) but rather their investment. I clearly explained SS flows upward.
The flow of investment in the youth is largely from private individuals to youth. [privatized]
But the flow (dividends) the other way is largely through SS upwards. [socialized]
That's my whole point! It's a terrible system because the reciprocation encourages free-riders and poor incentives for investment in the youth, as the ROI is poorly coupled to those making the investment.
> I think you're looking at this with a misunderstanding of how SS works.
You accused me of not understanding how Social Security works, not of how you think it should work.
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