Comment by chii

> Or if a war breaks out and that company is in a country on the other side?

the company has something over the consumer, unlike the products of old. This is what i dislike about new age products that are so internet enabled.

It started with game consoles, but it won't end with cars.

I just want a self-contained piece of equipment that can work in perpetuity. Look at those old milling and lathe machines - some are as old as 30 yrs, and works brilliantly.