Comment by aucisson_masque

1 day ago

No, what’s anti competitive is Google making an open source operating system that is worth absolutely nothing without the Google play services, and locking these play services behind contract that contains anti competitive rules, like « you have to set Google Gemini as default assistant », or « you can’t ever sell a phone without the Google play services or with any alternative than the Google play services ».

Android at its core is free and open source, every company can ship it. But Google hold one key thing in its hands, the Google play services, and use that to force others to do whatever they want them to do.

Else they can go the huawei direction, good luck making a Google play services competitor outside of China. Maybe in Russia ? That’s nothing.

Maybe perplexity ai is just better than Gemini and that’s one of the reason Motorola wanted to ship it. Maybe it’s for money. Whatever the reason, Google is abusing its dominant position to prevent competitor from competing with them.

So if Google closed sourced their OS and access to their store is only via their OS, is that anti competitive ?

Trying to figure out the argument.

As opposed to Apple, Android is free and open like you said. It’s the Google Play Store that has limited access.

  • Apple never pretended iOS is free and available to all other phone manufacturer. It was always a main selling point for Apple phone.

    Google killed competition by first making a free operating system that all phone manufacturer could use, lowering their production cost, and when competitor like windows phone or Samsung tyzen died, slowly tightened his grip by pushing more and more core feature in their third party services, hence forcing manufacturer to agree to their terms if they want to have a play store, Google pay service or just pass play integrity so that bank app can run.

    That’s in my opinion completely different strategies, one is fair, the other is deceptive and manipulative.