Comment by simianparrot

17 hours ago

Every example is the Studio Ghibli style. Tasteless and no respect for the studio and its legacy.

I don’t understand how you can do this and not feel horrible about it. But I guess not everyone cares as long as it might earn you a few dollars…

I suggest that they use the Disney style. It’s similarly popular and well known but no one will stand up to protect it since it’s a multi billion dollar company that we already know has no respect for artists or artistic legacy.

> I don’t understand how you can do this and not feel horrible about it.

I don't understand why you think one should feel horrible about generating images in some visual styles. What's the problem?

Demonstrably, it's not something that's generally considered protected - it's not in the laws, and I've got this impression that the request of "$artist/$studio-style art" was generally considered socially acceptable. AFAIK it's also a part of academic courses, where artists practice various styles.

Patron requests, homages, pastiches - all this stuff existed for a long while and was generally accepted (or so I think), the only difference is that a machine does it now, incredibly fast and cheap. People used to hire artists for this kind of stuff since times immemorial. Nowadays, if a machine can do a passable job, then why waste human's most valuable resource (time) for it.

It would be interesting is to hear Studio Ghibli's opinion on the matter. Not someone who thinks they might be wronged somehow (no offense meant, I do not intend to invalidate your opinion) or someone who rather thinks they might be even benefiting from this - I'm sure it's likely to be a multiple-edged sword, as life is rarely simple - but their own actual thoughts on the subject. I wonder if they already published something...

  • Good news - we have commentary on that. Hayao Miyazaki calls artificial intelligence animation "An Insult To Life Itself" [1]. It's one of his more well-known quotes.

    1. https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/hayao-miyazaki-ar...

    • Thank you.

      I have watched the video but, sadly, it seems to be on a merely tangentially related subject (some zombie ragdoll movement), that caused an understandable disgust (as explained in the video). Then there was a comment about the desire to create a machine that can draw pictures - and I’m really not sure how that’s connected to anything that happened in the video.

      The only thing I was able to extract from it is general disapproval, but that’s about all I can be sure of. Better than nothing but not something I was hoping for.

      Upd: oh, I haven’t noticed this immediately, but it’s a 9-year old video. I was hoping for something more up-to-date, as a lot of things had happened since then.

Most people never heard of Studio Ghibli and their style. They just like how it looks. Whey you have only one such book at home it's not annoying.

As for the project: it's nice and easy, likely will be replicated soon.

Style has been copied since time immemorial and was never copyrightable. I think it's better to be the studio everyone copies in their AI slop than the studio nobody copies in terms of publicity, sales and cultural impact. And the mass copying by a handful of models in a reasonably consistent way together with everyone talking about it is probably better for the studio than flesh and blood artists here and there copying it not so consistently / competently without the buzz attributing the style to the studio

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness."

  • “Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is whatsoever. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself”

    • Though I agree with the sentiment that Miyazaki must hate OpenAI commodifying his style, I find it so ironic that people misuse a quote of his from 2016 to be about AI generally. Another kick in the nuts for the poor guy.

      He was talking about how an AI generated gruesome animation made him think of his friend awfully struggling with a disability. That people who create that kind of stuff don't understand pain and suffering.

      The full quote: "Every morning, not in recent days, I see my friend who has a disability,” he said. “It’s so hard for him just to do a high five; his arm with stiff muscle can’t reach out to my hand. Now, thinking of him, I can’t watch this stuff and find it interesting.

      Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is whatsoever. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself”

100% agree, what the AI “techbros” have been doing has been distasteful and downright disrespectful.

Sam Altman is also a little bitch for taunting people like that through his business ventures. First that Her actress’ voice and now this.