Comment by 999900000999
2 days ago
>there are only 2 things you can't do with the music here; use it to advertise right wing politics or causes, or use it to promote meat, dairy, or other animal products. click here to view the full terms.
I'm very liberal, but this is bizarre. Apart of a society is doing business with people who don't 100% agree with you.
And Bob's Burritos can't run an ad with it because they aren't a vegan restaurant ?
I'm lumped in with the Republicans because I like burgers and pizza? Is that where the culture war is at?
It's been a pretty common practice for years that musicians will refuse their music being used to promote things they disagree with. E.g., some politician will use a track by a band, the band doesn't like the politician, so they'll tell the politician to stop using the track.
And, I don't think that the agreement here is meant to equate eating meat with being right wing. Moby is famously against animal products, so he's decided he doesn't want the music used to support those products.
> Apart of a society is doing business with people who don't 100% agree with you.
There's a vast chasm between "not 100%" agreeing with someone (Moby in this case), and being a Nazi. Bob's Burritos is a TV show so I don't think they'd be considered promoting meat, though the legalese is probably too questionable, as is restricting use for "right wing politics".
Moby is however of the opinion that animal abuse is unacceptable, regardless of whether people think it tastes good. I'm generally of the opinion that people should be free to establish hard boundaries for the use of their content.
You're thinking of Bob's Burgers, but even then it's a cartoon where the characters eat meat.
If you take this to its logical conclusion it can't be used with any media that displays the consumption of food that's not 100% vegan.
Right wing cause is also a bucket of worms. Someone like Joe Rogan is now considered Right Wing though he supported Bernie Sanders in the past.
If a liberal podcast host uses this as their theme music, then has a right wing guest on violate this?
If I mention I start my day with some yogurt, did I violate it ?
Feels like a "I'll sue you if I want" clause.
My bad, I was just listening to a podcast with someone talking about being on Bob's Burgers.
But no, I don't think it makes it unusable for media which shows people eating meat. If I make my music available for anyone to use in projects which aren't promoting homophobia, I'm not going to have a problem with someone using it in a TV show where a character is homophobic. The salient thing is whether the show itself is promoting homophobia (and if I wanted to sue someone for such a use, I'd need a pretty strong case that the TV show was actually promoting homophobia)
> Right wing cause is also a bucket of worms. Someone like Joe Rogan is now considered Right Wing though he supported Bernie Sanders in the past.
Yes, I agree with this 100%, it's pretty much meaningless. I'm not sure if this makes it unusable or usable for anything. My suspicion is that the wording of the license would make it very difficult for Moby to sue you for use for anything but a clear violation, but he can revoke your license (which he would gain nothing from, and would erode faith in his mobygratis project). So I think it would be best avoided by people who aren't reasonably using his music for projects that he wouldn't approve of. Obviously "right-wing" is subjective, but if you're using it to promote Trump's campaign, trans-denialism, or the new Arby's chicken burger, obviously you can expect the license to be revoked.
If you're a "liberal" talk show host I think the license would be best avoided; liberal in the U.S. is considered right-of-center by many
If you're a socialist (or even social democratic) talk show host who occasionally brings on centrist or right-wing personalities, I think you'd be fine.
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The only thing that bothers me about these terms is the blatant misuse of the semicolon. Too much work to hire a copyeditor?