Comment by lawn

1 day ago

This is just another angle of placing people in camps.

Combine this with the overzealous focus on transvestites and the so called "illegal aliens" you should see a pattern with where the Nazis began.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/euthanasia... "On August 18, 1939, the Reich Ministry of the Interior circulated a decree requiring all physicians, nurses, and midwives to report newborn infants and children under the age of three who showed signs of severe mental or physical disability." "Beginning in October 1939, public health authorities began to encourage parents of children with disabilities to admit their young children to one of a number of specially designated pediatric clinics throughout Germany and Austria. In reality, the clinics were children's killing wards. There, specially recruited medical staff murdered their young charges by lethal overdoses of medication or by starvation."

> transvestites

The focus seems to lie on transgender people, not cross dressers.

  • I don't think there's much discern, given the outrage around the Drag Queen Story Hour.

    • The type of person driving this pointless cultural war would like to make it seem that this is essentially all about men dressing up as women telling children things they shouldn't know — both erasing the fact that trans men exist, and deliberately linking both drag and transgenderism to sexual perversion and implied paedophilia while lumping the two groups together.

      So let's keep the words we use sensible and devoid from (intended or unintended) bigotry.

      Besides, drag queens and kings usually are not transgender¹. It is a type of performance featuring a carefully crafted, over-the-top persona, not a full-time endeavour, and it is, crucially, an act. A transgender person isn't acting.

      1: I would guess not more so than other groups of people.

  • I think the point was to use a "historical" term to evoke how the nazis would have spoken about trans people.

Even if you are a current supporter of this administration this all should give you a moment of pause really. Even if you think the current administration isn’t about this, and it’s fear mongering by the media to you, what if the next administration goes a step further than you like, and this is where the door was set open?

There is a reason the constitution was set up the way it was in the light of not having a King and not being unfairly treated.

  • No he is saying putting people in camps like murder camps / forced labor camps / concentration camps.

    Not in camps like divided by opinion.

Nit, nobody actually cares all that much about transvestites. Vest like from vestments meaning clothes. They're cross-dressers. Historically transsexual or transgender (depends on the country which one is the more prominent term) people have been called transvestites but it was a mischaracterization. Someone born with XX chromosomes but who lives his life full-time as a man is very different from a woman who likes to dress up like a man for sexual or other pleasure.

  • While you're right on the terms, you're wrong about the stigma on cross-dressing. There is really very little distinction bigots make between their hate for cross-dressing and their hate for trans people. It all falls under a big umbrella of "degeneracy" to them. Even actors in cross-dressing roles are often hated by these people.

    • I mean there certainly is a stigma, the stigma is probably on average greater than the current stigma surrounding trans people because even Republicans understand gender dysphoria as an illness. Ohio's Republican governor DeWine is, even by Democrat standards a huge trans rights and treatment supporter even for minors. It's legitimately uncanny to read stories about him from back home. But cross-dressers occupy an almost exclusively sexual connotation now that femboy/butch/tomboy/andro occupy the common term for just casually dressing in a manner defying gender norms.

      But when it comes to policy actions taken by bigots they pretty narrowly target transgender people. If for no other reason than trying to legislate dress is going to (and has) run into 1A issues for anything not extremely narrowly scoped. Project 2025, arguably the comprehensive policy manifesto for the new GOP only really outlines policy targeting transgender persons.