Comment by oceanhaiyang

1 day ago

> Show me a place that looks like that where no-one goes hungry, has to worry about medical bills and doesn’t live in fear of the rich and powerful and then I’ll be impressed.

I think you’re still speaking about Chongqing. China builds these and closes the wage gap.

Oh come on.

Lower socio economic Chinese definitely still fear the rich and worry about being homeless and not getting medical treatment.

  • Tell me one way that your statement doesn’t apply to the US or many other wealthy developed nations.

    The GINI coefficient is higher in the USA than it is in China.

    China in recent years has reduced inequality while the US has done absolutely nothing to curb discontent, the same discontent that has led to the election of a fascist leader.

    Don’t believe me, look up the data.

    • > China in recent years has reduced inequality

      After many years of increasing inequality

      > the US has done absolutely nothing to curb discontent, the same discontent that has led to the election of a fascist leader.

      I cannot imagine possible definition of "fascist" that would include the US and exclude China. China has far more fascist features than any other major country - personality cult, courts compliant with the government, erasure of minority cultures - and actual genocide.

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  • It is an insight into human irrationality to see a country where hundreds of millions have been lifted out of crushing absolute poverty, that has built one of the world's best infrastructure from nothing...in the 70s, China was poorer than every country in Africa bar one.

    ...the problem is that some people are concerned only with how things are done, this is feudal government, this is pre-industrial economic growth, who does things, how they do it, make sure nothing new is every tried because that is dangerous and might lead to the elite losing control. China (and much of East Asia) succeeded because they are concerned only with outcomes, and this is all that people care about anyway. Unfortunately, the West is now controlled by people who see change as dangerous, and nothing is more dangerous than a country leapfrogging them in development because it proves that their leadership is bankrupt and incompetent.

    • Western societies are blinded by the narrative their governments have fed them in the last 50 years: China Bad.

      But us in 3rd world countries have the ability to see both Western and Eastern societies' development and compare it ij a more unbiased way.

      Frankly the China bet looks more successful.

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