Comment by Ygg2

4 months ago

> The problem with Rust is that almost everything is still at an alpha stage.

Replace Rust with Bevy and language with framework, you might have a point. Bevy is still in alpha, it's lacking plenty of things, mainly UI and an easy way to have mods.

As for almost everything is at an alpha stage, yeah. Welcome to OSS + SemVer. Moving to 1.x makes a critical statement. It's ready for wider use, and now we take backwards compatibility seriously.

But hurray! Commercial interest won again, and now you have to change engines again, once the Unity Overlords decide to go full Shittification on your poorly paying ass.

Unfortunately, it is a failing of many projects in the Rust sphere that they spend quite a lot longer in 0.x than other projects. Rust language and library features themselves often spend years in nightly before making it to a release build.

You can also always go from 1.0 to 2.0 if you want to make breaking changes.

  • > Unfortunately, it is a failing of many projects in the Rust sphere that they spend quite a lot longer in 0.x than other projects

    Yes. Because it makes a promise about backwards compatibility.

    > Rust language and library features themselves often spend years in nightly before making it to a release build.

    So did Java's. And I Rust probably has a fraction of its budget.

    In defense of long nightly feature more than once, stabilizing some feature like negative impl and never types early would have caused huge backwards breaking changes.

    > You can also always go from 1.0 to 2.0 if you want to make breaking changes.

    Yeah, just like Python!

    And split the community and double your maintenance burden. Or just pretend 2.0 is 1.1 and have the downstream enjoy the pain of migration.

    • > And split the community and double your maintenance burden.

      If you choose to support 1.0 sure. But you don't have to. Overall I find that the Rust community is way too leery of going to 1.0. It doesn't have to be as big a burden as they make it out to be, that is something that comes down to how you handle it.

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