Comment by echoangle
7 months ago
I’m not sure that’s enough, robots.txt isn’t really legally binding so if the zip bomb somehow would be illegal, guarding it behind a robots.txt rule probably wouldn’t make it fine.
7 months ago
I’m not sure that’s enough, robots.txt isn’t really legally binding so if the zip bomb somehow would be illegal, guarding it behind a robots.txt rule probably wouldn’t make it fine.
> robots.txt isn’t really legally binding
Neither is the HTTP specification. Nothing is stopping you from running a Gopher server on TCP port 80, should you get into trouble if it happens to crash a particular crawler?
Making a HTTP request on a random server is like uttering a sentence to a random person in a city: some can be helpful, some may tell you to piss off and some might shank you. If you don't like the latter, then maybe don't go around screaming nonsense loudly to strangers in an unmarked area.
The law might stop you from sending specific responses if the only goal is to sabotage the requesting computer. I’m not 100% familiar with US law but I think intentionally sabotaging a computer system would be illegal.
I'm also not a lawyer, but wouldn't they dismiss this as a sabotage if the requester is not legally forced to request it in the first place?
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Has any similar case been tried? I'd think that a judge learning the intent of robots.txt and disallow rules is fairly likely to be sympathetic. Seems like it could go either way, I mean. (Jury is probably more a crap-shoot.)
Who, running a crawler which violates robots.txt, is going to prosecute/sue the server owner?
The server owner can make an easy case to the jury that it is a booby trap to defend against trespassers.
> can make an easy case to the jury that it is a booby trap to defend against trespassers
I don't know of any online cases, but the law in many (most?) places certainly tends to look unfavourably on physical booby-traps. Even in the US states with full-on “stand your ground” legislation and the UK where common law allows for all “reasonable force” in self-defence, booby-traps are usually not considered self-defence or standing ground. Essentially if it can go off automatically rather than being actioned by a person in a defensive action, it isn't self-defence.
> Who […] is going to prosecute/sue the server owner?
Likely none of them. They might though take tit-for-tat action and pull that zipbomb repeatedly to eat your bandwidth, and they likely have more and much cheaper bandwidth than your little site. Best have some technical defences ready for that, as you aren't going to sue them either: they are probably running from a completely different legal jurisdiction and/or the attack will come from a botnet with little or no evidence trail wrt who kicked it off.
The illegality of boobytrapping your house appears to be illegal because of the potential threat to life/health. A zip bomb doesn’t threaten any people. At worst, it can fill up memory and storage on a device. I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t violate any of the same statutes and it most likely wouldn’t fall nicely under any of the common law jurisprudence that you mentioned.
> pull that zipbomb repeatedly to eat your bandwidth, and they likely have more and much cheaper bandwidth than your little site.
Go read what a zip bomb is. There is one that is only a few KB, which is comparable in server load + bandwidth to a robots.txt.
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The law generally rewards good faith attempts, and robots.txt is an established commercial standard.