Comment by maccard
1 day ago
Did you watch the videos linked in the article?
> I'm on a 5 year old Samsung (the model is, I bought it new six months ago)
How quick is the Share menu on your samsung? On mine, it takes about 3 seconds of repainting itself before it settles down. On iOS there's about a 100ms pause and the drawer pops up, fully populated. I found [0] which is a perfect example of this sort of bloat.
> My main computer is beefy, though, 32 thread 128GB; but no NVMe. Sata spindle and SSDs. But I have Ryzen 3600s that run windows 11 fine.
My main computer is a 24 core i9 with 64GB ram on NVMe. It runs windows fine. But, I saw exactly the same behaviour out of the box on this machine (and on the machine I replaced) as the linked article shows. I can compile, play games, do AV transcoding. But using apps like slack or discord is like walking through molasses, and even launching lightweight apps like WIndows Terminal, and Notepad have a noticeable delay from button press to the window appearing on screen. There's just something a bit broken about it.
[0] https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/05/google-please-fix-a...
No i was referring only to the comments here. The share menu comes up real fast, there's no "delay", as soon as the menu with "share" goes away, the bottom slides up and the share panel appears, icons populated.
Is Slack also electron? a cursory search says discord is electron. Now, firefox lags to start, too - compared to edge, which is nearly instant to "launch". Brave is also <1second to launch. I don't use "notepad", but i just ran it, and while it's slower than the old notepad.exe, it's much faster than notepad++ to come up - but i generally launch that once and leave it running, same with firefox.
I don't use windows terminal, i use pwsh 7.5.x, and it's <1 second to be ready for input. the window comes up real fast, and then the text appears about that long again later. I launched cmd.exe and it came up perhaps a bit slower than pwsh, but not noticeably so.
this is what i am talking about, i don't notice anything slow on my computer, any of my computers, really. This leads me to believe that either the people who do experience slowness have a compromised system, or some other issue. 5400 RPM data/boot drive, only using electron apps (which are slow in general), or otherwise misconfigured.
I haven't used Ubuntu desktop since they tampered with the system menu/start menu, so i have no idea what that is like now. The server can be snappy, though - you just have to configure networking and the like correctly. I'm not a fan of systemd; that colors my opinion of a lot of linux systems. I use Gentoo and Devuan because they fully support OpenRC, which i consider vastly superior for my use cases. However, i do maintain a couple of ubuntu based OSes for neighbors on HP EliteDesk SFF computers, and they seem alright, 3-4x as fast as an rpi3/4 at ubuntu desktop, as far as launch lag and boot times and the like.
I think to put this to bed, we need to establish a baseline or at least a list of applications to launch while screen recording, and then literally count frames. It would be funny if this was all perception and it wasn't actually "slow", that is, "seconds to load" is actually like 2 seconds, and not 12...
My share is 1s. Didn't realise it was that slow. From the UI interaction I wonder if it is on purpose to avoid an accidental share.