Comment by weaksauce

21 hours ago

how long did enron last before they had to close because of fraud? it was over 20 years i'm pretty sure. that's not a good estimate.

According to SEC, Madoff started his Ponzi scheme in the early 90s and wasn't arrested until December 2008, about 15 years or so.

Enron started out as a real company doing real things, and only pivoted to fraud later.

  • Well, I wouldn't put it that way as long as we're correcting the record. It was always the boring moving dirt company, never pivoted, but it grew a cancer that became Too Big To Fail because it was more profitable than moving dirt.

    - it did boring non-tech big industry stuff

    - it was good at this

    - it started an in-house hedging department (normal)

    - they were good at their jobs and accidentally created a massive speculative trading business that fell apart