Comment by andy99

20 hours ago

Curious to know if this extends to LLMs and if so how they would define open source. Specifically it would be nice to see repudiation of Meta's "Open" BS by a nation state.

https://www.comparia.beta.gouv.fr/modeles compares models and Llama different licenses are not mislabeled as "open source".

Also, https://opensource.org/ai/endorsements shows code.gouv.fr in the list.

Related :

https://elevenfreedoms.org/

> The traditional Four Freedoms of free software are no longer enough. Software and the world it exists in have changed in the decades since the free software movement began. Free software faces new threats, and free AI software is especially in danger.

They're just those eight guidelines. Not particularly precise, with intent mattering more than any definition. This isn't a policy, just a goal.

I wouldn't call data "source", whether a book, a sound track, video, etc.

In my view of the world, the code to train, the software to run, that's open source joy.

Now... should the trained, and vectored data be free? Maybe so.

But I bet this UN thing doesn't cover that.

  • I didn't call the data the source and in the past have explicitly argued that training data is not necessary to exercise the freedoms normally associated with open source.

    Llama models have usage restrictions that go against any mainstream definitions of open source.

    • The model is part of the data, agreed?

      Anyhow, I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, simply stating my thoughts. And I focused on data because I see OSS code everywhere, so presume there is no issue there.