Comment by roenxi

7 months ago

As far as I've seen we appear to already have self driving vehicles, the main barriers are legal and regulatory concerns rather than the tech. If a company wanted to put a car on the road that beetles around by itself there aren't any crazy technical challenges to doing that - the issue is even if it was safer than a human driver the company would have a lot of liability problems.

This is just not true, Waymo, MobilEye, Tesla and Chinese companies are not bottlenecked by regulations but by high failure rate and / or economics.

They are only self-driving in a very controlled environments of few very good mapped out cities with good roads in good weather.

And it took what like 2 decades to get there. So no, we don't have self-driving even close. Those examples look more like hard-coded solution for custom test cases.

What? If that stuff works, no liability will have to be executed. How can you state that it works and claim liability problems at the same time?

> the main barriers are legal and regulatory concerns rather than the tech

they have failed in sfo, phoenix and other cities that rolled red carpet for them

  • Pretty solid evidence that self driving cars already exist though.

    • As prototypes, yes. But that's like pointing to Japanese robots in the 80's and expecting robot butlers any day now. Or maybe Boston dynamics 10 years ago. Or when OpenAI was into robotics.

      There's a big gap between seeing something work in the lab and being ready for real world use. I know we do this in software, but that's a very abnormal thing (and honestly, maybe not the best)

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    • When people say “we'll have self-driving cars next year”, I understand that self-driving cars will be widespread in the developed world and accessible to those who pay a premium. Given the status quo, I find it pointless to discuss the semantics of whether they exist or not.

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    • You're confusing "exist" with "viable".

      When someone talks about "having" self-driving cars next year, they're not talking about what are essentially pilot programs.

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    • I remember one reason phoenix was chosen as a trial location coz it was supposed to be one of the easiest places to drive.

      It's pretty damning that it failed there.

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