Comment by keybored

6 days ago

Thankfully the uncrazy person is going to get us on that sane VC AI wavelength.

> If you’re making requests on a ChatGPT page and then pasting the resulting (broken) code into your editor, you’re not doing what the AI boosters are doing. No wonder you’re talking past each other.

They’re playing 3D chess while you’re stuck at checkers.

I do things suboptimally while learning the ropes or just doing things casually. That doesn’t mean that I judge the approach itself by my sloppy workflow. I’m able to make inferences about what a serious/experienced person would do. And it wouldn’t involve pasting things through three windows like I would do.

So of course I don’t judge AI by “ask chatty and paste the response”.

Yes indeed: “deploying agents” is what I would imagine the Ask Chatty And Paste workflow taken to Perfection to look like.

> LLMs can write a large fraction of all the tedious code you’ll ever need to write. And most code on most projects is tedious. LLMs drastically reduce the number of things you’ll ever need to Google. They look things up themselves. Most importantly, they don’t get tired; they’re immune to inertia.

Most Rube Goldberg machines are very tedious and consist of fifty-too-many parts. But we can automate most of that for you—

I could not have ever imagined a more Flintstones meets Science Fiction clash than AI According To Software Engineers. You’re using AI to generate code. And no one cares how much. It’s just so tedious in any case.

A wortwhile approach would have been to aspire to make or generate technology artifacts that could be hidden behind a black box surface with a legible interface in front. Is the code tedious? Then make the AI come up with something that is well-designed, where the obvious things you want is given freely, where minor customizations are just minor tweaks, and larger deviations require only proportionally larger changes. Uh, how about no? How about generating 20KLOC line “starter” some-framework project with all the 20KLOC “tedious” bits hanging out, then we can iterate from there. The AI made a Git log and everything so it’s ya know audited.

But maybe I’m being unfair. Maybe we are moving towards something not quite as stupid as Deploy ChatGPT 50X? Or maybe it’s effectively going to behind a black box. Because ya know the AI will deal with it all by itself?

> Are you a vibe coding Youtuber? Can you not read code? If so: astute point. Otherwise: what the fuck is wrong with you?

> You’ve always been responsible for what you merge to main. You were five years go. And you are tomorrow, whether or not you use an LLM.

No!, and what the fuck is wrong with you? We are Flintstone technologists and I’ll be damned if I can’t get my AI brain chip-injected, genetically enhanced for speed horsey cyborg for my modern horse-drawn carriage patent.