Comment by copx

19 hours ago

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It is very wrong to look at murdered children of one group and say they’re not innocent because their grandparents were killers.

This conflation of group and individual responsibility is at the heart of pretty much every atrocity.

  • Indeed, but it seems widespread.

    Even the trial against a musician who incited violence argues in that direction.

    "In addition to other evidence, the prosecution cited a song celebrating the abolition of monarchy and the regaining of independence from 1959 to 1961: a Rwandan expert in the trial later expounded that the latter song could not have been addressed to the Rwandan nation as a whole, because the Tutsis were associated with the Rwandan monarchy and colonial regime, and that it was impossible to hate the monarchy without hating the Tutsis"

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Bikindi#Details

What % of the killed Tutsi in Rwanda did themselves kill Hutus as part of the government/army of another country two decades prior?

You're buying into a genocidal mindset of collectivizing an entire ethnic group and assigning collective blame.

The dynamic here is the Tutsi were considered superior (taller, thinner noses, lighter skin) by the colonizers and made up most of the ruling class during and after colonialism. Pre-colonization these groups were genuinely fluid. The genocide was essentially an uprising.

  • > Pre-colonization these groups were genuinely fluid.

    Where did you read this? I’ve seen many people make this claim but I’ve never seen any evidence that it’s true. The only source I have found for it is Philip Gourevitch’s book “We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed with Our Families”

    I could not find the actual page where this claim is ostensibly made, just an unsourced claim that the identity cards made such mobility impossible. A similar claim is often made about the caste system in India (which gets attributed to the British), and the scholarship there is similarly very poor.

    • “Rwanda and Burundi” (1970) by Rene Lemarchand

      Quote “Tutsi and Hutu distinctions were more occupational than ethnic, with intermarriage and status change being fairly common.”

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